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OK so my car is off the road and not being driven. I try to start it up every so often to keep everything oiled up etc. Anyway a couple of days ago I tried to start her up and it fired up for a split second and fell flat on her face. I tried repeatedly to start it and no luck. Tried again today with the same exact results. First try seemed like it was going to fire up for a split second and blah, blah, same results.

The fuel pump is working, there are no CEL's, new starter, new battery, new plugs and wires. The stock MAF pipe has a tear in it (has had one since I've owned and never had this problem). I'm just trying to give you guys as much info as possible.

I'm moving to my new house soon and would like it to make the trip under it's own power :confused: (it's 10 minutes across town).

Any suggestions? Where should I start to diagnose the problem? Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I really don't want this car to make another trip on the flatbed (it has 2 already under it's belt this year).
 

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start by telling us if it has spark, injector pulse, and fuel pressure :)
 

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Steve Wood said:
start by telling us if it has spark, injector pulse, and fuel pressure :)
It does have FP and spark. Injrctor pulse I will have to verify. Thanks for the help thus far.
 

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if it has no injector pulse, I would think the cam sensor has failed...if it does have some kinda pulse, I would pull the cam sensor cap off and make sure the interupter wheel is firmly affixed with the locating tab. Look at my site for a picture under tech pictures if you don't know what I am talking about. then crank the engine over and make sure it is turning while you are cranking.

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Steve, I was misinformed, I bought a spark test thing-a-ma-bob (looks like a pen with a fuse) and confirmed there is no spark.

Stupid question: How do I test "injector pulse". I did a search but didn't find a "how-to".

Edit: Just read your site a little more thoroughly. I need a noid lite. Ignore my last post.
 

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injector noid light set- buy them at any autoparts store in the tools section
 

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If no spark, I would look at the crank sensor first to see if the bracket broke.

If it looks okay, then we need to know if it has injector pulse...noid lite is normally less than ten bucks...just unclip one of the injector leads and plug the lite into the lead...then watch it while cranking the engine...it should blink periodically :)
 

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Steve Wood said:
If no spark, I would look at the crank sensor first to see if the bracket broke.

If it looks okay, then we need to know if it has injector pulse...noid lite is normally less than ten bucks...just unclip one of the injector leads and plug the lite into the lead...then watch it while cranking the engine...it should blink periodically :)
OK, I went to 4 different places today for a noid lite and no one has them (Sears, Pep Boys, Autozone, NAPA). I'll order one on-line I suppose.

Steve (or anyone else that can answer this), is the cam sensor at the fron of the motor with 3 wires coming out of it w/a plastic cover held in place by 2 phillips screws? Sorry for the noob questions......I search this stuff out but the GNTTYPE info I saw is a little unclear.
 

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Sinical said:
OK, I went to 4 different places today for a noid lite and no one has them (Sears, Pep Boys, Autozone, NAPA). I'll order one on-line I suppose.

Steve (or anyone else that can answer this), is the cam sensor at the fron of the motor with 3 wires coming out of it w/a plastic cover held in place by 2 phillips screws? Sorry for the noob questions......I search this stuff out but the GNTTYPE info I saw is a little unclear.

No spark? what kind of sound does the fuel pump make when you first turn the key on? No sound? I'd be thinking the ecm isn't getting any power. Try and probe the orange ECM power wire near the battery to make sure power is getting through it.
 

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No spark? what kind of sound does the fuel pump make when you first turn the key on? No sound? I'd be thinking the ecm isn't getting any power. Try and probe the orange ECM power wire near the battery to make sure power is getting through it.
The fuel pump turns on, I tried it again this morning and it started for a split second then died and then just cranks but doesn't turn over. Steve Wood is asking me to check the crank sensor but I'm unsure exactly where that is :dunno: . I'm thinking that it's at the front of the motor with 3 wires coming out of it with a plastic cap affixed by (2) phillips screws?
 

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Sinical said:
The fuel pump turns on, I tried it again this morning and it started for a split second then died and then just cranks but doesn't turn over. Steve Wood is asking me to check the crank sensor but I'm unsure exactly where that is :dunno: . I'm thinking that it's at the front of the motor with 3 wires coming out of it with a plastic cap affixed by (2) phillips screws?
That is the cam sensor.

The crank sensor is located at the bottom front of the engine on the drivers side , and off to the side of the harmonic balancer.
 

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see the pictures on my site....under techpictures
 

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STOMPN 6 said:
That is the cam sensor.

The crank sensor is located at the bottom front of the engine on the drivers side , and off to the side of the harmonic balancer.
Thank you sir, I'll check it tomorrow. Is there a cover of some sort that needs to be pulled off first to be able to check it?

Sorry for the noob questions guys.
 

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Steve Wood said:
see the pictures on my site....under techpictures
Is the picture on your site just as it appears under the car? Or is there anything that needs to be removed to get at the crank sensor?
 

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Sinical said:
Is the picture on your site just as it appears under the car? Or is there anything that needs to be removed to get at the crank sensor?
that is the way it is...

crawl under the car and look at the bottom of the damper angled toward the drivers side
 

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Thanks Steve. I appreciate it. :cheers:
 

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Sinical said:
Is the picture on your site just as it appears under the car? Or is there anything that needs to be removed to get at the crank sensor?

Exactly as the picture displays it. (driver's side)
 
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