[toady]

I jumped in the car to go to work this morning, and when I did a "key on," the SES light was flashing rapidly. I started it anyway, and then hooked up the scan tool - "VEHICLE NOT RESPONDING."

I shut it off, popped the hood, and reset the ECM. Same thing. I took my wife's car since I have no idea what this means.

Does anyone have any ideas? "Toady" is my driver, so I'd like to get this fixed quickly. Thanks in advance.

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[Zap]

Prom not making contact or ecm fault, probably. Clean your chip contacts, reseat, and try to start her again. Then when you are done with your wife, try the same with your car.

 

[toady]

Thanks, Zap. I'm still at work, but it seems checking the chip/ECM is a good first step. The only other chip I have to test with (besides stock) is a KB Ultimate - yuck. I didn't buy it, it came with the car.

Would it be bad to drive the car like this? Any risk of grenading something? Salvage, are you reading this?

Then when you are done with your wife, try the same with your car.
You know, I expect this sort of mean-ass stuff from Steve, but not from you. Now I am truly left without hope for the future.

AAACK! I know what it is - Bill, my car caught your car's electrical problem!!!

(Just kidding, of course)

[This message has been edited by toady (edited December 02, 2001).]

 

[Steve Wood]

Just wiggle your chip up and down in the socket a couple of times and then, replug it...it will work

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by toady:

1.Would it be bad to drive the car like this? Any risk of grenading something?

2.You know, I expect this sort of mean-ass stuff from Steve, but not from you. Now I am truly left without hope for the future.

1.With larger than stock injectors you should not run in limp mode.

2. I don't believe there is such a thing as past, present or future. There are merely points in space that we may occupy. So then, you are left without hope for that particular point that you may call the future (from your "present" perspective)

 

[Steve Wood]

Ah, yes, the space-time continium from a West Viagran perspective. In essence what goes around, comes around, and what will be has already been, but as Man seems doomed to forget yesterday, history conveniently repeats itself, albeit with a new cast of characters so that deja vu may not be a faux pas but keep that under your chapeaux, Joe!

 

[Zap]

Go to your crappole and tell it to Kaku.

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[toady]

As is typical of my car, I got home, turned the key on, and no more flashing light! I did finally get a code 51 PROM error, though. I think I need to contact John Spina, as this isn't the first time the Ultrachip has gone code 51 on me (last time was over a year ago).

Thanks Steve and Zap for pulling my fat out of the fire again.

2. I don't believe there is such a thing as past, present or future.
May I then have all your future earnings? I mean, since you don't believe and all...

[This message has been edited by toady (edited December 03, 2001).]

 

[Steve Wood]

Sometimes the socket is just a bit loose...clean the pins and don't worry about it...*s*

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by toady:

2. I don't believe there is such a thing as past, present or future.
May I then have all your future earnings? I mean, since you don't believe and all...

I'll get back to you at some point on that question.

Stop it Steve! Stop it! You are driving me crazy!



[This message has been edited by Zap (edited December 03, 2001).]

 

[Steve Wood]

Damn short trip. Never got out of low gear.

 

[TurboDave]

Just re-seat the chip in the socket, or whatever you have plugged into that socket.



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[GNBILL]

I bet my car snuck up next to yours while we were in the house and coughed all over it.Hopefully that's all that happend between them,Toady is not short for Horney Toady is it?If that thing is pregnant I have dibs on the offspring.You said it was a prom or homecoming problem?Just a little fun .Good luck,and I have the battery you loned me for the ride home all charged up waiting to be returned(soon I hope).
Later
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[toady]

Bill, that's it, next time you bring your car over I'm backing mine into the garage.

Here's something interesting: I've since had several instances where the car will be fine, but if I accelerate hard in 4th gear, it will switch over to the calpak and flash the SES light, then go away after about 30 seconds. Very bad! And only in 4th gear.

Or, I'll drive to work fine, and going home, it will flash the SES as soon as I key on. I'll key off, press the chip in, and I'm good to go. So as Dave and Steve have suggested, the chip is loose in there. I'm going to give the contacts a good cleaning tomorrow and see if that helps.

 

[toady]

Well, I did an R&R on the chip, cleaning the pins. Fired 'er up, and all seemed well. Then, for the drive home from work yesterday, I keyed on and the SES was flashing again. Grrrr...

Thing is, it goes away if I key off, push the chip down, and try again.

I'm thinking that if the chip were faulty or suffering from static, that it would always code, not this intermittent stuff. I'm trying to dig up another chip to test. Has anyone ever seen a bad ECM give a PROM error (code 51)?

 

[Steve Wood]

sometimes, it is in the socket...my elky is bad about it. try another ecm.

 

[Dennis]

If you need a ecm to try just let me know live pretty close to you, Aloha 97006

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[toady]

Dennis offered me an ECM to use, but I haven't been able to pick it up yet. I think it's the chip, though. John Spina told me that the SES light should never flash like that under normal conditions.

That, and I put my KB "Ultimate" chip back in to test, and no problems. Now, when a 13-year-old KB chip works better than what you have in there, something is way wrong... So I'm going to send the Ultrachip to John for testing.

BTW, John said it sounded like I had a "zapped chip." Et tu, Zap? Et tu?

[This message has been edited by toady (edited December 18, 2001).]

 

[Steve Wood]

Zap ain't gonna appreciate having his name used without remuneration!