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My understanding is that the `87 Turbo T is amongst the rarest of the TR`s other than the GNX. Am I guessing here ?

What constitutes a factory light weight ?

I have just purchased one with manual windows, manual seats, manual doorlocks, aluminum bumper braces and brackets. It does have power antenna and remote driver side mirror. It doesn`t have a power trunk lock either. Could this be classified as a factory light weight ?

Anything special here with respect to rarity ?

It is in excellent shape with only 50,000 miles, no rust at all.

George, in ALBERTA.

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1982.....0 T-types 215 GN
1983.....3,732 T-types 0 GN
1984.....3,401 T-types 2,000 GN
1985.....2,100 T-types 2,102 GN
1986.....2,384 T-types 5,512 GN (112 Lesabre GN, non-turbo)
1987.....8,547 T-package 20,194 GN (547 GNX)

My understanding is that if your T is a WE4, it is factory light weight, but I do not really know. It would be black with black bumpers without a spoiler and, yes, with aluminum bumper braces and brackets. It could be purchased with various options. Outside of the GNX and the 1982 GN, the 1987 TR Limited(1,035) and the WE4(1,547) are the rarest. Hope this helps.

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In MHO a "factory lightweight" is simply a car Buick built with no options. Not desirable to me, but I guess if you want a drag only car it's a good use for them.

I'm sure some people order them this way with radio delete and all not quite sure why though....
 

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A low-option car is a stripper (stripped-down).


A factory lightweight is a car that has weight saving bodypanels, windows and delete options (no radio, no AC, no sound deadener, no back seat, etc.) making it even lighter than a base car. A factory lightweight goes far beyond a low-option car.

I don't think there have been any true lightweights since the 60's.




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Thanks guys,

I also have 2 GN`s. One I bought new in `87.
I hadn`t considered a T type or Turbo T before this last purchase. As a result, don`t know too much about them other than they share the same drive train. I bought this T because of the very clean condition and low mileage. Some people collect stamps.

George, in ALBERTA

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I have an 87T also. The car has 60/40 seats, column shift, chrome package, cornering lamps in the fenders, and 70k. Could anyone tell me how many with these options were made?

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How about an 83t with granny shift (column shift) t-tops 60/40 split and touch sensitive climate control.

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with 103,000 miles.


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Lets not forget about the black 87 T's with the black out package and chrome bumpers. These are suppose to be the rarest, so I've read.
 

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dont forget the Limited Ts ...only 1080 or somethin like that...Our's is a 1 off car that Melissa owns now along with her WE-4


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Originally posted by Wht87T:
I have an 87T also. The car has 60/40 seats, column shift, chrome package, cornering lamps in the fenders, and 70k. Could anyone tell me how many with these options were made?

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Originally posted by Wht87T:
I have an 87T also. The car has 60/40 seats, column shift, chrome package, cornering lamps in the fenders, and 70k. Could anyone tell me how many with these options were made?
Depends. Do you have the Broheem option?
 

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Originally posted by Screamin6:
Originally posted by Wht87T:
I have an 87T also. The car has 60/40 seats, column shift, chrome package, cornering lamps in the fenders, and 70k. Could anyone tell me how many with these options were made?
Depends. Do you have the Broheem option?
Screamin.....Did you buy that option also? In retrospect I am so glad I spent the extra money for it, hope you feel the same.

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When considering the "Rarity" of T-Type turbo Regals, you must remember NOT to include the production of non-turbo T-Type's!

Following is a letter from Buick Motor Division, dated 1/05/88 showing just turbo Regal Production:

YEAR TOTAL TURBO'S T-TYPE GRAND NATIONAL

1983 3,732 3,732 None
1984 5,401 3,401 2,000
1985 4,202 2,100 2,102
1986 7,896 2,384 5,512
1987 27,592 6,851 20,741

When you take into account that the above(1987)figures also include the 1547(WE4 Black Official Turbo-T's)and the 1035(Limited's)then, you can see that only a balance of 4,269 remaining Turbo T-Type Regals were produced-also, making them pretty rare!

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Originally posted by TEEDOFF:
When considering the "Rarity" of T-Type turbo Regals, you must remember NOT to include the production of non-turbo T-Type's!

Following is a letter from Buick Motor Division, dated 1/05/88 showing just turbo Regal Production:

YEAR TOTAL TURBO'S T-TYPE GRAND NATIONAL

1983 3,732 3,732 None
1984 5,401 3,401 2,000
1985 4,202 2,100 2,102
1986 7,896 2,384 5,512
1987 27,592 6,851 20,741

When you take into account that the above(1987)figures also include the 1547(WE4 Black Official Turbo-T's)and the 1035(Limited's)then, you can see that only a balance of 4,269 remaining Turbo T-Type Regals were produced-also, making them pretty rare!

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Non-Turbo T-Types??? Was there such a creature? If so why?

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T option was a package available on all Regals.

Suspension, steering, shocks, 15" wheels, 215/65/15 tires, and leather steering wheel, oh and the badging.

Available on any Regal...
 

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I have an 87T also. The car has 60/40 seats, column shift, chrome package, cornering lamps in the fenders, and 70k. Could anyone tell me how many with these options were made?

Depends. Do you have the Broheem option?
Don't you mean the D'elegance package? Or was that only with the leather and full spare option?
 

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yes but the t-types base level motor is the turbo v-6. a person would have to actually order the car with another motor.

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Originally posted by pat83t:
yes but the t-types base level motor is the turbo v-6. a person would have to actually order the car with another motor.

In '87, you had to get the "T" package to get the Turbo V6, but you did NOT have to order the turbo V6 to get the T package.
There were quite a few '87 T's with a 307 V8.
How rare are they? Probably fairly rare, but
who cares? It was the turbo drivetrain that made these cars what they are.

In '86 it was a different story. You had to get the turbo V6 to get the T-Type package.
 
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