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Old 06-17-2008, 10:53 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:15 AM   #47 (permalink)
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This is why I'm an independent and want the two party system to collapse and unite under one party with term limits. Vote for policies, not parties.


yep, Government should be a public service instead of a career. Personal morality seems to not apply to many public servants and corruption is rampant as a result.

Far too many politicians feel that the country (government) owes them rather than having the attitude that they owe the country.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:44 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Isn't a one party system called a dictatorship?

A democracy isn't the most functional or efficient form of government and is not intended to be so. It's a fallacy to think that it is or should be . For the most part, it's working as intended. The power is still retained by the people, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

Those that want "everyone to work together as one" for "the good of America" are either BS politicians or those who simply don't understand the democratic form of government.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:50 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Isn't a one party system called a dictatorship?

A democracy isn't the most functional or efficient form of government and is not intended to be so. It's a fallacy to think that it is or should be . For the most part, it's working as intended. The power is still retained by the people, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

Those that want "everyone to work together as one" for "the good of America" are either BS politicians or those who simply don't understand the democratic form of government.
No, it is not. A dictator runs by his own dictates so to say...There is no separation of authority as provided by our Constitution which proposes a republic and not a true democracy.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:52 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Isn't a one party system called a dictatorship?

A democracy isn't the most functional or efficient form of government and is not intended to be so. It's a fallacy to think that it is or should be . For the most part, it's working as intended. The power is still retained by the people, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.

Those that want "everyone to work together as one" for "the good of America" are either BS politicians or those who simply don't understand the democratic form of government.
we have the technology now to have a true democracy. We could vote through the internets
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The OPEC minister may look you in the eye and say, "We are at war with you infidels and have been since the embargo in the 1970s. You are so arrogant you haven't even recognized it. You have more missiles, bombs, and technology; so we are fighting with the best weapon we have and extracting on a net basis about $700 billion/year out of your economy. We will destroy you! Death to the infidels!

While I am here I would like to thank you for the following:

Not developing your 250-300 year supply of oil shale and tar sands. we know if you did this, it would create thousands of jobs for U.S. citizens, expand your engineering capabilities, and keep the wealth in the U.S. instead of sending it to us to finance our war against you infidels.

Thanks for limiting Defense Department purchases of oil sands from your neighbors to the north. We love it when you confuse your allies.

Thanks for over regulating every segment of your economy and thus delaying, by decades, the development of alternate fuel technologies.

Thanks for limiting drilling off your coasts, in Alaska, and anywhere there is an insect, bird, fish, or plant that might be inconvenienced. Better that your people suffer. Glad to see our lobbying efforts have been so effective.

Corn based Ethanol. Praise Allah for this sham program! Perhaps you will destroy yourself from the inside with theses types of policies. This is a gift from Allah, praise his name! We never would have thought of this one! This is better than when you pay your farmers NOT TO GROW FOOD. Have them use more energy to create less energy, and simultaneously drive up food prices. Thank you U.S. Congress!

And finally, we appreciate you letting us fleece you without end. You will be glad to know we have been accumulating shares in your banks, real estate, and publicly held companies. We also finance a good portion of your debt and now manipulate your markets, currency, and economies for our benefit.

THANK YOU AMERICA!
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:03 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Yaay!!!! Steve Wood for Mullah !!! (err... I mean President !!! )
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:38 AM   #53 (permalink)
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That was an email that I received from a cousin. I would have written a bit more...

We are too much like Pogo.
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just about sums it all up.....
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Steve, we already have too many people moving to Texas!
Let's just close "the valves" going to states that refuse to do any exploration and or refining or as said before put a tariff on gasoline and diesel going to those states.
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did you see Bush today saying we need to drill offshore...think he has been reading this thread...watch out Dave the Secret Service is on its way
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:02 PM   #58 (permalink)
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CIA probably told him about the Chinese drilling off the coast of Floridia....I mean Cuba.
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I'll bet Gothmog's head is full of some kind of concentrated combustible. I say we drill for the good of America!
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I'll bet Gothmog's head is full of some kind of concentrated combustible. I say we drill for the good of America!
Not like there's any brain matter in there that could be damaged.
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