stupid job

boosted6 · 09-23-2003, 09:52 PM

ok, i just got "terminated" from my job today, because i failed to check the brakes properly on a guys van, when they were actually metal to metal, and so my employer had to pay for new rotors. basically, my question is this: is there a law or anything saying that non ASE mechanics cant be, i guess, trusted?? or anything like that, since im only 18 and my job before this was at Safeway and ive never had a job at a shop, so, NO, im not ASE certified. Is it just me or is this guy kinda stupid for trusting someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever????? if any of you are ASE certified mechanics and no anything about this, please let me know any info. Thanks in advance!!!

zam70 · 09-23-2003, 11:00 PM

um, no...there is no law.
You screwed up MAJOR...maybe your employer figured if you couldn't diagnose something this simple and obvious, you weren't right for the job.
It's their right AND responsibilty to make sure they have people doing the job that CAN do the job.
You screwed up
got fired
move on...

87natty · 09-24-2003, 12:29 AM

He's right, that's bad man. As soon as the car is in your hands, it's their liability.

boosted6 · 09-24-2003, 01:12 AM

ok, you guys misunderstood. I HAVE NO TRAINING AT ALL!!! i didnt know what i was doing. i was expecting someone to look at it to make sure i did well. i understand i screwed up, but its like he kinda did too, cuz he was trusting me with it. oh well. i guess whats done is done, but im still jobless now and supposed to be saving up for my car (see sig) and school at wyotech in april. frown

Nasty Wendy · 09-24-2003, 02:42 AM

Why don't you get a job a something you are good at doing. It seemed like your ex-employer expected you to hit the water swimming, thats not uncommon although its not always right of them. Basically there isn't anything you can do about the termination unless you are prepared to spend much time and effort to fight to be somewhere you aren't wanted....then there still is no garrantee that you will win that fight....actually its highly unlikely that you will win that fight. It is water under the bridge. If you are getting ready for a tech school then whatever job you get now isn't a career move eh? If I were you I'd get a job as a cook at Hooters headbang .

87natty · 09-24-2003, 04:22 AM

DON'T WORK AT HOOTERS! I spent 2 years in that kitchen, the girls are all money hungry bitches and the food is gross. And on top of that, the pay sucks.

JohnLarkin · 09-24-2003, 06:29 AM

I bet it sucked wearing those shorts too.

ULYCYC · 09-24-2003, 08:51 AM

You are correct but it depends on what your state laws are and how the shop advertises its help. If they have a sign up or advertising that says "All work done by certified mechanics" or Some reference to expert or experience repairs you may have a case. But legal fees will cost more than you can claim. At best settle for non challenged unemployment insurance.

The Radius Kid · 09-24-2003, 12:08 PM

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boosted6:
ok, you guys misunderstood. I HAVE NO TRAINING AT ALL!!!

So what was your "title" around there?

motorhead · 09-24-2003, 12:36 PM

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The Radius Kid:

Quote:

boosted6:
ok, you guys misunderstood. I HAVE NO TRAINING AT ALL!!!

So what was your "title" around there?

From his original thread:

Quote:

yeah and also, im called a general service technician, so they refer to me as a GS. alsowe have employee numbers so they know who did what, and my number happens to be 87, while i own an '87 G.N. i think its a sig

ULYCYC · 09-24-2003, 12:42 PM

You still may have a chance to run for Governor. None of them can do brake jobs either. Good luck in your job hunt.

WakkoSS · 09-24-2003, 01:23 PM

I worked at Discount Auto (now Advance Auto) for 6 years. Sucky pay (8.45 hr) but I learned alot, got discounts on my parts and met alot of knowledgable people to pick brains with.

87GP · 09-24-2003, 05:12 PM

A couple quick questions. how long did you work at the shop when the manager asked you to look at the brakes? Also why didn't you ask someone else to look at it with you? (or maybe you did dunno ) There is no such law. It seems to me your trying to put some of the responsibility on the manager, the fact that he trusted you to do a brake check says he had confidence in your ability. Even with "no training at all", it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at how worn brake pads are or to run your fingers along the rotors. But then again I've been a tech for 10 years now.

Cj headbang

<small>[ September 24, 2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: 87GP ]</small>

The Radius Kid · 09-24-2003, 05:13 PM

Quote:

mOtOrHeAd MiKe:

Quote:

The Radius Kid:

Quote:

boosted6:
ok, you guys misunderstood. I HAVE NO TRAINING AT ALL!!!

So what was your "title" around there?

From his original thread:

Quote:

yeah and also, im called a general service technician, so they refer to me as a GS. alsowe have employee numbers so they know who did what, and my number happens to be 87, while i own an '87 G.N. i think its a sig

Although that is a pretty "general" term,thanks for pointing that out Mike.

However,apprenticeships are usually carried out in "levels".
He's 18 years old and has very little experience[by his own admission].
So my original question still stands:What's your title around there?
Tire change guy?
Tune up guy?
First year app. up to general repair with supervision?
Just walked in the door yesterday?
Oil change and easy repairs only?
See what I'm getting at?
Sometimes bosses like to place responsibilty on app.'s for stuff they're not qualified to do.
I know,I've been there. angrymou

Zap · 09-24-2003, 05:36 PM

Life is full of bad "brakes".

09-23-2003, 09:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
boosted6 TURBOBUICKSdotCOM Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wandering aimlessly around the Bay Area, CA. Posts: 464	stupid job ok, i just got "terminated" from my job today, because i failed to check the brakes properly on a guys van, when they were actually metal to metal, and so my employer had to pay for new rotors. basically, my question is this: is there a law or anything saying that non ASE mechanics cant be, i guess, trusted?? or anything like that, since im only 18 and my job before this was at Safeway and ive never had a job at a shop, so, NO, im not ASE certified. Is it just me or is this guy kinda stupid for trusting someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever????? if any of you are ASE certified mechanics and no anything about this, please let me know any info. Thanks in advance!!! __________________ (I charge for my signature)

09-24-2003, 12:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
87natty Register Boozer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South San Diego Posts: 3,726	He's right, that's bad man. As soon as the car is in your hands, it's their liability. __________________ 'What do you know about surfing? You're from G*ddamn New Jersey!'

09-24-2003, 01:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
boosted6 TURBOBUICKSdotCOM Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wandering aimlessly around the Bay Area, CA. Posts: 464	ok, you guys misunderstood. I HAVE NO TRAINING AT ALL!!! i didnt know what i was doing. i was expecting someone to look at it to make sure i did well. i understand i screwed up, but its like he kinda did too, cuz he was trusting me with it. oh well. i guess whats done is done, but im still jobless now and supposed to be saving up for my car (see sig) and school at wyotech in april. frown __________________ (I charge for my signature)

09-24-2003, 02:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
Nasty Wendy Defender of the Universe Join Date: May 2001 Location: Waggaman, La. USA Posts: 9,920	Why don't you get a job a something you are good at doing. It seemed like your ex-employer expected you to hit the water swimming, thats not uncommon although its not always right of them. Basically there isn't anything you can do about the termination unless you are prepared to spend much time and effort to fight to be somewhere you aren't wanted....then there still is no garrantee that you will win that fight....actually its highly unlikely that you will win that fight. It is water under the bridge. If you are getting ready for a tech school then whatever job you get now isn't a career move eh? If I were you I'd get a job as a cook at Hooters headbang . __________________ The Turbobuicks.com FFL 2006 Champions DSR #3

09-24-2003, 04:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
87natty Register Boozer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South San Diego Posts: 3,726	DON'T WORK AT HOOTERS! I spent 2 years in that kitchen, the girls are all money hungry bitches and the food is gross. And on top of that, the pay sucks. __________________ 'What do you know about surfing? You're from G*ddamn New Jersey!'

09-23-2003, 11:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
zam70 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Springfield, Il Posts: 169	um, no...there is no law. You screwed up MAJOR...maybe your employer figured if you couldn't diagnose something this simple and obvious, you weren't right for the job. It's their right AND responsibilty to make sure they have people doing the job that CAN do the job. You screwed up got fired move on...

09-24-2003, 06:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
JohnLarkin It's me, really Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indy Posts: 1,777	I bet it sucked wearing those shorts too.

09-24-2003, 08:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
ULYCYC Fuhgeddaboudit Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 16,503	You are correct but it depends on what your state laws are and how the shop advertises its help. If they have a sign up or advertising that says "All work done by certified mechanics" or Some reference to expert or experience repairs you may have a case. But legal fees will cost more than you can claim. At best settle for non challenged unemployment insurance. __________________ ED BAKER 87-T, Maplight equipped rear view mirror.. 93 PARK AVE"SUPERCHARGED" BPG#1458 My Photo Page buickperformancegroup.com "As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken 1927

09-24-2003, 12:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
ULYCYC Fuhgeddaboudit Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 16,503	You still may have a chance to run for Governor. None of them can do brake jobs either. Good luck in your job hunt. __________________ ED BAKER 87-T, Maplight equipped rear view mirror.. 93 PARK AVE"SUPERCHARGED" BPG#1458 My Photo Page buickperformancegroup.com "As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken 1927

09-24-2003, 01:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
WakkoSS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Delray Beach, FL, USA Posts: 534	I worked at Discount Auto (now Advance Auto) for 6 years. Sucky pay (8.45 hr) but I learned alot, got discounts on my parts and met alot of knowledgable people to pick brains with. __________________ Ian 989ci

09-24-2003, 05:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
87GP Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phx,AZ Posts: 37	A couple quick questions. how long did you work at the shop when the manager asked you to look at the brakes? Also why didn't you ask someone else to look at it with you? (or maybe you did dunno ) There is no such law. It seems to me your trying to put some of the responsibility on the manager, the fact that he trusted you to do a brake check says he had confidence in your ability. Even with "no training at all", it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at how worn brake pads are or to run your fingers along the rotors. But then again I've been a tech for 10 years now. Cj headbang <small>[ September 24, 2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: 87GP ]</small>

09-24-2003, 05:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zap Boorn Looser Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 21,226	Life is full of bad "brakes". __________________ With ten nurses knocked out in just the first week, Steve Monroe realized that building the Old Boxers home next to the bell factory wasn't such a great idea Join the NRA

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