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Old 11-03-2007, 11:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I got banned from TB.com; for trying to save Turbo regal people money......

Yeah, so I copied the whole thread before I got banned because I figured either it will get deleted or I'll get banned... So here it is, look at these crooks at work!!!!

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im almost done getting all the parts i need to take my motor to the machine shop, but i wanted to get feedback on some machine shops i would love to do zimmerman or even anderson but i dont want to wait more than half a year to get my engine back. my built is very simple
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October 28th, 2007, 01:54 PM

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Get ahold of Lou- he'll steer you in the right direction. Or, Sod Bogosian may have a line on a good machine shop.
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October 28th, 2007, 02:40 PM


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yeah i kinda want to cut out the middle man and go straight to the source, im aiming more towards L&R in santa fe springs they did alot of engine builds for OVERHAULING, but id like to get some other feedback to
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October 28th, 2007, 03:25 PM

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Ziggy:
I can understand that you want to cut out the middleman, although I do not not necessarily agree with that theory though, but I still think that Lou or Sod would steer you in the right direction.
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ill give them a call tomorrow hopefully they can point me in the right direction, ill be building the engine with the help of my good friend pete pretty much the bottom end heads and cam i can do myself, the build is pretty mild,steel mains, stock crank,st rods, 30over TRWs............im just looking for a fair elco body mid 80s maybe someone can chime on a roller body.
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im just looking for a fair elco body mid 80s maybe someone can chime on a roller body.[/quote]



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October 28th, 2007, 06:48 PM


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I can understand that you want to cut out the middleman, although I do not not necessarily agree with that theory though, but I still think that Lou or Sod would steer you in the right direction.
I'm not interested but give Sod a call I would be curious to see how that would work out.



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October 28th, 2007, 07:06 PM

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October 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM

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I've had good results from the guys at Nutech Engines in Lakeside Ca. Both the father Britt and son James are a PITA from time to time but they know what they're doing. They do mostly Chevy stuff as you might imagine and BBC is their forte' but they know Buick's too. Their machine work is top notch.

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October 29th, 2007, 01:29 AM


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thanks for the info, i guess i can count lou out of the picture thanks for the help, sods a very good friend of mine just to let you know lou but i want to go another route other than going to the buick specialist,when i said,"CUT THE MIDDLE MAN OUT", it wasnt a stab towards you or sod i would just like to take my engine to the machine shop myself, i dont want have to keep calling the shop and pissing you off when i could just piss them off do you get me lou
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October 30th, 2007, 04:33 AM


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thanks for the info, i guess i can count lou out of the picture thanks for the help, sods a very good friend of mine just to let you know lou but i want to go another route other than going to the buick specialist,when i said,"CUT THE MIDDLE MAN OUT", it wasnt a stab towards you or sod i would just like to take my engine to the machine shop myself, i dont want have to keep calling the shop and pissing you off when i could just piss them off do you get me lou

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I'm not interested but give Sod a call I would be curious to see how that would work out.
Sod turned around a 3.8 with main caps & a 3.8 stroker motor main capped in 2 weeks for us.
Both JE pistons,decked, blue printed etc.
I have never seen 1 motor much less 2 done that fast. From the time we shipped till it was on it's way back here 3 weeks had passed.
I figured I'll ship him 2 while were moving & it will be 2 less things to move.
I was just like DAYUMN!
I think having a middle man who supplies alot of business to a machine shop will get you done faster in my opinion.
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Sod turned around a 3.8 with main caps & a 3.8 stroker motor main capped in 2 weeks for us.
Both JE pistons,decked, blue printed etc.
I have never seen 1 motor much less 2 done that fast. From the time we shipped till it was on it's way back here 3 weeks had passed.
I figured I'll ship him 2 while were moving & it will be 2 less things to move.
I was just like DAYUMN!
I think having a middle man who supplies alot of business to a machine shop will get you done faster in my opinion.
thanks sods a good guy i had my trans built with him and had it withing a week
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yeah go figure but what can we do, i would really love to go with anderson but i dont really want to hasle with shipping.
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yeah go figure but what can we do, i would really love to go with anderson but i dont really want to hasle with shipping.
have you talked to him? you know he has a couple of 109 blocks ready to go for machining...
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you might try benson machine in santa ana .years back they did buddy ingersols stuff and they had the only torque plate I could find at that time for the hot air motor I put together.



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For guys down in the San Diego area Nutech has a torque plate for a Buick V6 also.

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you might try benson machine in santa ana .years back they did buddy ingersols stuff and they had the only torque plate I could find at that time for the hot air motor I put together.
About a year ago, Dan Benson flipped out got pissed off with Calif. & moved to Idaho
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thanks sods a good guy i had my trans built with him and had it withing a week
Riddle me this? You say Sod is a great guy & a friend. Yet you want to cut out the middleman & not support him.Plus he is now a supporting vendor. Why am I having a hard time understanding your logic. Help me out here!



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Riddle me this? You say Sod is a great guy & a friend. Yet you want to cut out the middleman & not support him.Plus he is now a supporting vendor. Why am I having a hard time understanding your logic. Help me out here!
why would i want to pay you to take my block (or have them pick it up) just so they can do the work and you take all the credit, crank the rod on that old brain of yours im not paying "U" the middle man to take the credit for the machine shop, sod and manny are very good friends of mine i see manny on a weekly basis (hes my snap on guy) and i bought a pita loud of parts from sod in the past and have been to his house and visited his personal and impressive car collection, i guess if i dont throw money at you i wont get any VENDOR SUPPORT right lou. i tried to avoid alot of the crap that people say about you but damn im starting to think that its all true
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why would i want to pay you to take my block (or have them pick it up) just so they can do the work and you take all the credit, crank the rod on that old brain of yours im not paying "U" the middle man to take the credit for the machine shop, sod and manny are very good friends of mine i see manny on a weekly basis (hes my snap on guy) and i bought a pita loud of parts from sod in the past and have been to his house and visited his personal and impressive car collection, i guess if i dont throw money at you i wont get any VENDOR SUPPORT right lou. i tried to avoid alot of the crap that people say about you but damn im starting to think that its all true
Married! you still haven't answered my question is Sod a middleman or a friend & why aren't you supporting him.As for me taking credit for someone elses work.I work closely with many others to make things possible.My machinist does work per my instructions & knows nothing about Buicks I like all the rest of the vendors pay dearly for R&D to make things happen so people like yourself have someone to go to. As far as vendor support I don't work for chiselers that claim friendship while picking my pockets. I'm way smarter than that.



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ok thanks for the vendor support again, ill stop and be the bigger man,thanks for all the help i had a couple of pms to some good machinest out here.
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Married! you still haven't answered my question is Sod a middleman or a friend & why aren't you supporting him.As for me taking credit for someone elses work.I work closely with many others to make things possible.My machinist does work per my instructions & knows nothing about Buicks I like all the rest of the vendors pay dearly for R&D to make things happen so people like yourself have someone to go to. As far as vendor support I don't work for chiselers that claim friendship while picking my pockets. I'm way smarter than that.
I guess if some of us want to do our own work were getting into this OLD bitch's pockets......go figure. I used to send alot of people to you too Lou, how could you not be interested in getting money; isn't that your job??? So what if we want to cut the middleman? Don't we all??? So what if we dont want to make punk ass people like you rich; do we have to just because youre a vendor??? I remember you charged my buddy $700 to check an alky system and had that car running worse than when it came in..... Don't get me wrong, you've done marvelous work with Brent's car and many others, but I'm sure it was big $$$, and I'm sure the same work could've been done at a way lesser price.

All of the SoCal people need to read this thread and see what this old man
(LOU) is really out for; obviously not for the love of these cars and helping you go fast....but all about "picking your pockets". Lou's punk ass will charge you just to LOOK at your car!!!!!! Very True.....



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I'm not interested but give Sod a call I would be curious to see how that would work out.
I'm sure Archie at GN1performance would be interested in talking to you...
Maybe Rick Percy would be interested in helping......
Maybe Jeff Price could help.....
Sod at HYE tech could have someone pick up your stuff $$$$
Pete will build your whole F*ng motor over the weekend.....
Nick Micale could set you up with a killer 4.1
Anderson WOULD get your 109 in the 9's.....

You have alot of options..... VadersV6 has a good machine shop; PM him
Wicked87GN knows about alot of machine shops as well.......

Make some phone calls and save that $$$$$$!!!!!



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I can understand that you want to cut out the middleman, although I do not not necessarily agree with that theory though, but I still think that Lou or Sod would steer you in the right direction.
Mods and this website in General will always support vendors.....very biased in my opinion, but you know how it is on here.....
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Riddle me this? You say Sod is a great guy & a friend. Yet you want to cut out the middleman & not support him.Plus he is now a supporting vendor. Why am I having a hard time understanding your logic. Help me out here!
why would i want to pay you to take my block (or have them pick it up) just so they can do the work and you take all the credit, crank the rod on that old brain of yours im not paying "U" the middle man to take the credit for the machine shop, sod and manny are very good friends of mine i see manny on a weekly basis (hes my snap on guy) and i bought a pita loud of parts from sod in the past and have been to his house and visited his personal and impressive car collection, i guess if i dont throw money at you i wont get any VENDOR SUPPORT right lou. i tried to avoid alot of the crap that people say about you but damn im starting to think that its all true
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why would i want to pay you to take my block (or have them pick it up) just so they can do the work and you take all the credit, crank the rod on that old brain of yours im not paying "U" the middle man to take the credit for the machine shop, sod and manny are very good friends of mine i see manny on a weekly basis (hes my snap on guy) and i bought a pita loud of parts from sod in the past and have been to his house and visited his personal and impressive car collection, i guess if i dont throw money at you i wont get any VENDOR SUPPORT right lou. i tried to avoid alot of the crap that people say about you but damn im starting to think that its all true
Married! you still haven't answered my question is Sod a middleman or a friend & why aren't you supporting him.As for me taking credit for someone elses work.I work closely with many others to make things possible.My machinist does work per my instructions & knows nothing about Buicks I like all the rest of the vendors pay dearly for R&D to make things happen so people like yourself have someone to go to. As far as vendor support I don't work for chiselers that claim friendship while picking my pockets. I'm way smarter than that.



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ok thanks for the vendor support again, ill stop and be the bigger man,thanks for all the help i had a couple of pms to some good machinest out here.
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Married! you still haven't answered my question is Sod a middleman or a friend & why aren't you supporting him.As for me taking credit for someone elses work.I work closely with many others to make things possible.My machinist does work per my instructions & knows nothing about Buicks I like all the rest of the vendors pay dearly for R&D to make things happen so people like yourself have someone to go to. As far as vendor support I don't work for chiselers that claim friendship while picking my pockets. I'm way smarter than that.
I guess if some of us want to do our own work were getting into this OLD bitch's pockets......go figure. I used to send alot of people to you too Lou, how could you not be interested in getting money; isn't that your job??? So what if we want to cut the middleman? Don't we all??? So what if we dont want to make punk ass people like you rich; do we have to just because youre a vendor??? I remember you charged my buddy $700 to check an alky system and had that car running worse than when it came in..... Don't get me wrong, you've done marvelous work with Brent's car and many others, but I'm sure it was big $$$, and I'm sure the same work could've been done at a way lesser price.

All of the SoCal people need to read this thread and see what this old man
(LOU) is really out for; obviously not for the love of these cars and helping you go fast....but all about "picking your pockets". Lou's punk ass will charge you just to LOOK at your car!!!!!! Very True.....



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I'm not interested but give Sod a call I would be curious to see how that would work out.
I'm sure Archie at GN1performance would be interested in talking to you...
Maybe Rick Percy would be interested in helping......
Maybe Jeff Price could help.....
Sod at HYE tech could have someone pick up your stuff $$$$
Pete will build your whole F*ng motor over the weekend.....
Nick Micale could set you up with a killer 4.1
Anderson WOULD get your 109 in the 9's.....

You have alot of options..... VadersV6 has a good machine shop; PM him
Wicked87GN knows about alot of machine shops as well.......

Make some phone calls and save that $$$$$$!!!!!



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I can understand that you want to cut out the middleman, although I do not not necessarily agree with that theory though, but I still think that Lou or Sod would steer you in the right direction.


Mods and this website in General will always support vendors.....very biased in my opinion, but you know how it is on here.....
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So you want to sling rocks at Shane and his board, well let me clue you in on a little secret about yours. You made the statement in this post that you would be “researching” the other folks with multiple user names yet I haven’t seen a thing about it. So I would venture to that you are pretty consistent as well. I saved you some trouble Mike since you and Ed contributed to me losing a bet with Jim R. At the beginning of all of this he made the comment to me that he believes the hypocrisy and deceit runs both rapid and deep here. I mostly dismissed it but he made a statement to me that I challenged him on. He stated that the antics that originate from here are condoned by you particularly when you agree with them even if they are just down right wrong but that if the same stuff was done by someone not in the “click” then it is “exposed”. He stated to me that he had created a false user name some time ago while helping none other than Ron Mooney himself and that Ron knew about it no less. He also went on to bet me that he could post under that alias here then deny it and bet me that it would be exposed by one or a couple of you here. I’ll be a son of a b*tch if he didn’t get EXACTLY what he said he would. He also stated that the monkey would then be on your back to expose Mr. Mooney for his antics as well. He even gave me until the Reynolds event to see if anything would actually happen as Ed stated that it could take awhile. Well just as he said NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. I took up for you and Ed despite our differences because I believed the two of you to be straight shooters but can say that Jim R. was right and I was wrong because neither you nor Ed have done the same for ole Mooney yet you sling your accusations around about how hypocritical others are. You have let ole Mooney continue on his tirade of bullsh*t knowing the entire time that he had multiple user names. I am sure that there are even more than what I was able to expose below yet ya'll have said nothing to him in terms of trashing another for something he himself is guilty of many times over. I made it simple for those that follow this ongoing BS.

Under every picture that is posted under the following names I found that they are all linked to the following address. – tufbuick/rons second album - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

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Kinda funny isn’t it, they all come back to ole tufbuick's photobucket. Not only does Ron Mooney claim to have busted “Jimmy Wheeze” when he knew who it was all along, he also goes on a tirade about false user names when he himself has MULTIPLE user names and the address of the pictures listed under these names go back to none other than Mr.TufBuick himself. Now I owe Jim Rodgers an apology because just as he stated ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was exposed about Ron Mooney and his bullsh*t.

Who are you Mike to take pot shots at Shane Grimsly who has done absolutely NOTHING to anyone in this community? Get your own sh*t together before you go spouting off at someone who has done absolutely nothing to you.

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And you fit in with the other board quite nicely! Complain about multiple logins to me, the person that has nothing to do with that, perfect! If you have a problem with it, bring it with the ones doing it. Not the person that gives YOU the ability to post whatever you want.
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You type so much that I can't possibly sit here and read your entire rant. If you want people to hear what you have to say don't write a book each time. I skip over half of your threads because it looks like diarrhea on my screen.

And you fit in with the other board quite nicely! Complain about multiple logins to me, the person that has nothing to do with that, perfect! If you have a problem with it, bring it with the ones doing it. Not the person that gives YOU the ability to post whatever you want.
First of all it's called being clear and concise, not a rant. Second, diarrhea or not those are ALL of the facts, not just picking and choosing as you and yours do. Third, YOU stated that YOU would research it. I didn't bring a d*mn thing to your attention if you remember correctly, you put yourself in the middle of it, go back and read it. The bottom line is that you don't want to read it because you know that it is correct. Last, don't come at me like you are innocent after the "balls in your mouth comment". I haven't forgotten about it, nor will I. Short enough for your this time?

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All I know, is that this board has WAY less drama than TB.com....... And another thing I know is that one of my other banned buddies is probably gonna have a few words with this Shane guy if he shows up to the AZ event. And he says there's gonna be some furniture moving......
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