BPG Potential Member Questions

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by joenational

He was told to go up to the sponsors himself and get, not cash prizes but gift certificates for things he cannot use which in no way amounted to 7 or 8 grand...

The racers do have to contact the sponsors regarding their payout. That is not unusual in any organization. As for the amount I don't know but can see if I can find out and post it.

Jim C.

[V6 Beast]

Originally Posted by EightSecV6

I broke this year, you dont get anything when you lose, that is how competition drag racing works in the event you were not aware of that. Last year I won TSM and got about $1100 in cash.

It would have been more but we decided to spilt before the final

[kshrek]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

No, this has been an on going issue and as usual cannot be left alone. It is ALWAYS the same key players wanting to create sh*t storms. My problem is that one should not start something they do NOT intend to finish. Being that these same members of the BPG have continued to try and make unfounded accusations and conspiracy theories fact I have made it a point to return the favor only with facts not conjecture. When the GSCA, Red, Ron, Richard, Bennett and Jim R. are left alone I will go back to my cage and play with my tire. Until then I will continue to return the favor in spades. I will gladly join the BPG. I have never been afraid to do much of anything. I have made myself aware of the workings of the GSCA by picking up the phone and reading. As such I find the bullsh*t that has been slung towards them over the years offensive. So why should I not join the BPG and see how they work. After all this is what certain members of the BPG wanted wasn't it. To create a split and make the GSCA fail. So let's dance!!!

Jim C.

Maybe I missed something here or on the V8 board, but wasn't JR the firestarter this time around? (not that it matters much I suppose but I thought things were finally starting to quiet down a bit up until now). If you really want to be part of it, I really wish you the best of luck and if/when I ever pony up membership dues perhaps we'll have a round. But I'll make a prediction: you will probably get as warm a reception as I would were I to join gsca now that I have been "exposed" as a JCC sympathizer/ally

[Adam Martin]

I moderate all new users to the BPG board to ward off potential spammers.

Consequently, sometimes people have to wait to have their accounts activated until I can sit my skinny ass in this chair and click the "Accept" button. I HATE doing this, because it's an inconvenience...but it's the only heads-up way to keep the board clean of $500 gas cards and free iPods.

Long Duk - you're all set.

Regarding all this other crap:

[JCC Supporter]

" I don't give this event even two more years before it goes the way of Norwalk, Salem and the others. "

Ummm....maybe I'm wrong about this but isn't Norwalk still running and didn't they just complete their 17th year?

ummmm and the Salem race didn't fold up and go away...its just moved to Columbus. Geesh.

Now I have a question. When the GS Nationals were in their 4th year what was their total car count for race and show classes??? I'm sure that being they get bigger and better each year that number should be pretty low.

And does it really matter where the BPG starts their membership numbers at? Are you gonna to tell me that since I am GSCA #3216 that's the actual number of members who are paid up to date??

Just things to ponder...........

[Adam Martin]

The BPG started the numbers at 1001 to avoid the whole aura of who #1 is.

Granted, everyone knows that 1001 is the "first" BPG membership. Who cares, though? It isn't a popularity contest.

[gbsean]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

So what you are saying is that I can get the financials once I join?

How am I supposed to be in "good standing"?

Why does the BPG membership start at 1000 instead of 1?

Why have so many of their other events failed?

Why is it that no one wants to answer these questions and gets offended when asked but has no issues playing 21 questions regarding the GSCA?

The bottom line is that a small minority of BPG members started this sh*t storm and now doesn't want to deal with it. Instead they want to play silly azz games. This same group has slung sh*t at the GSCA for years now and never really been called out for it. Now they have and they are trying the ole "We can read between the lines" two step. You weren't hollering this mess when ya'll were dog piling on the GSCA with your cronies now were you?

As for what little respect you had for me give me a break Sean. There was no respect there. Had there been days, weeks, months even years ago when I asked for there to be a live and let live truce it would have been so. Ya'll wanted to continually bash the GSCA with unfounded accusations and conspiracy theories. There have been many an issue that could have been worked on just fine without the back lot politicing of certain BPG members and why? To promote their own event? If that is the only way one can make it successful then something is wrong. As such lets not try and word things in such a manner as to try and influence others that are not involved in this in order to get one of the typical PBG or TBs "dogpiles" going on again. Let them make up their own minds and the chips will fall where they may.

Jim C.

try asking those question on the BPG website....try asking on GSCA board and they are deleted or ignored...and yes at one time there was respect...but you jumped on JR coat tails...and the rest is history

[EightSecV6]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

The racers do have to contact the sponsors regarding their payout. That is not unusual in any organization.

Our mutual hatred for each other aside, that is a bunch of BULLSHlT and you know it.....
It is the responsibility of the racer to collect his or her CONTINGENCY money from sponsors but definately not the racers responsibility to collect his or her PAYOUTS promised by the organization. BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

[EightSecV6]

Just got an email promising it will be handled.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by JCC Supporter

" I don't give this event even two more years before it goes the way of Norwalk, Salem and the others. "

Ummm....maybe I'm wrong about this but isn't Norwalk still running and didn't they just complete their 17th year?

Yes but not with the BPG.

Originally Posted by JCC Supporter

ummmm and the Salem race didn't fold up and go away...its just moved to Columbus. Geesh.

No? Then why did they have to combine forces with John Chamberlains failed Indy event to get this one up and running this year? You and I both know that had that not happened that this years event most likely would not have been put together without someone putting their own money into it.

Originally Posted by JCC Supporter

Now I have a question. When the GS Nationals were in their 4th year what was their total car count for race and show classes??? I'm sure that being they get bigger and better each year that number should be pretty low.

Don't really know but I can find out should you like. My comment was made after numerous posts by certain BPG members continually degrading the GS Nats. while promoting the BPG event. There is nothing wrong with promoting your event but when you call out another organization be prepared to be answered. As I have previously stated live and let live.

Originally Posted by JCC Supporter

And does it really matter where the BPG starts their membership numbers at? Are you gonna to tell me that since I am GSCA #3216 that's the actual number of members who are paid up to date??

It doesn't matter to me but it gives the aura of being inflated. As a matter of fact Renee the actual number of paid up to date members of the GSCA is several hundred more than 3216. Also the GSCA does reassign numbers when a member leaves where as the BPG does not. In other words to inflate one numbers in such a manner does not give a true idea of the actual member count. This would not be an issue if some did not make such comparisons. Being that they have the facts should be set straight.

Jim C.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by EightSecV6

Our mutual hatred for each other aside, that is a bunch of BULLSHlT and you know it.....
It is the responsibility of the racer to collect his or her CONTINGENCY money from sponsors but definately not the racers responsibility to collect his or her PAYOUTS promised by the organization. BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

The sponsors are NOT recruited by the GSCA. They are recruited by each classes RRA. Any monies owed by the GSCA is paid by the GSCA. The sponsorship of each class again is handled by the RRA. It cuts down on allot of the red tape. If there is a snafu then the RRA should handle it. If they do not then I would hope the racer would contact me so that I may attempt to do so for them. To recap, if the GSCA owes any of the racers money it needs to be brought to my attention or pick up the phone and call Richard or Bennett. If the class sponsors (Who were recruited by the RRA's for each class.) owe money or prizes and the racer has not been paid or recieve the promised item or service then the RRA should be contacted for help. If it cannot be resolved then contact me and I will attempt to get it straight or make it right.

Again, this was implemented with the approval of each classes RRA some 7 months prior to the Nats. so as to cut through some of the red tape. If it needs to be refined I am all ears.

Jim C.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by joenational

Oh my god!!!! I was not going to post about this sh!t again but this one really pissed me off...I was there speaking with the TSO winner face to face and was told how he got his winnings... And you my friend are a bold face liar.. He was told to go up to the sponsors himself and get, not cash prizes but gift certificates for things he cannot use which in no way amounted to 7 or 8 grand... What kind of sh!t is that? Before you attempt a response I am asking that you not bother because I already know that is true and anything you say will have no value at all...

Read my above post. Also, I don't believe the Jim R. said the payout was 7 or 8 grand but was more so alluding to thinking that it was somewhere in the neighborhood of total worth. Whether or not it was I don't know but I am sure that we could get a total if it is that big of a deal.

Jim C.

[The Radius Kid]

"No? Then why did they have to combine forces with John Chamberlain's failed Indy event to get this one up and running this year? You and I both know that had that not happened that this years event most likely would not have been put together without someone putting their own money into it."

I'm going to disagree with this statement Jim.
Both Indy and Salem were successful last year ['06] as evidenced by the turnouts....I was at both events.
Salem was moved because the track was up for sale when the event was being planned last year.
The track was recently bought and is still being run as a racing facility,as I understand it.
I hope they go back there next year.
Boardman is a MUCH nicer town than Columbus.
I think the two events being "pooled" together is a good idea and makes it easier on everyone's schedule.

[nasty yao]

For a first year event Indy was hardly a failure. IRP is a nice facility and things were very well organized. Would it have been nice to see more cars show up to race? yes but face it: with 3 major events within 90 days of each other and fuel prices being what they were/are it went pretty well overall. Chamberlain joined forces with BPG simply in an effort to bring a better product in terms of the nats. From what I hear they succeeded in doing just that. The issues concerning Quaker City have been well documented as well, now that the ownership has been settled, we'll see what happens.

[EightSecV6]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

The sponsors are NOT recruited by the GSCA. They are recruited by each classes RRA. Any monies owed by the GSCA is paid by the GSCA. The sponsorship of each class again is handled by the RRA. It cuts down on allot of the red tape. If there is a snafu then the RRA should handle it. If they do not then I would hope the racer would contact me so that I may attempt to do so for them. To recap, if the GSCA owes any of the racers money it needs to be brought to my attention or pick up the phone and call Richard or Bennett. If the class sponsors (Who were recruited by the RRA's for each class.) owe money or prizes and the racer has not been paid or recieve the promised item or service then the RRA should be contacted for help. If it cannot be resolved then contact me and I will attempt to get it straight or make it right.

Again, this was implemented with the approval of each classes RRA some 7 months prior to the Nats. so as to cut through some of the red tape. If it needs to be refined I am all ears.

Jim C.

Jim,
I cant get into the specifics as I dont know all the details and it is not my position but I can tell you the gift certificate from Turbonetics (that he DID receive) has yet to have been honored, Avon calls nearly everyday to see if his turbo has arrived at the shop and it still has not. He was under the impression it was sent long ago. There are several other certificates he was to have been awarded for his win and he has not received those either. I passed your phone number along to him, you should be expecting his call, again, I really cant say a thing either way as it doesn't involve me but Avon doesn't spend much time on the internet and has no means of contacting vendors for his prizes/money basically because he doesn't know what else he is entitled to. Hopefully it is all just a big misunderstanding and it will speak volumes for you in my eyes if you work to resolve it for him.
SINCERELY