BPG Potential Member Questions

[ULYCYC]

Jim, Rich and I can't wait for our 1998 rainchecks for now. Try and find out where is the rest of Avon's TSO winnings? Sounds like a few grand that you posted is missing

[Long Duk Dong]

Ahh, I see there is not even an attempt at an answer. Just more of the same ole bullsh*t and lame, dim whitted attempts at levity. If those of you that are too obtuse to read my entire post would re-read it you will notice that I clearly stated that I was waiting on my account to be "moderated" but wanted to post the questions here as well.

I clearly see that the same ones that scream, holler and whine like little school girls with their knickers in a twist regarding my tactics are the same ones who don't mind slinging pig sh*t when it comes to the GSCA but are oh so offended when issues are directed their way. Sure seems like a double standard to me. If you can post your garbage here I should be able to ask my questions but as usual, there are no answers just more rhetoric. I didn't realize that ya'll were the only ones that were allowed to post your thoughts or questions regarding another club here without issue. Want some links to some of the posts I am referring to? You can't toss about sh*t without getting it yourself as well. I could care less about the azzclown or other bullsh*t comments because any of you cuntz making them as usual will only do so here so I refuse to even comment about them anymore. Just can't answer the questions can you? It's easier to duck and dodge them all the while slinging more pathetic insults. THAT is what is crystal clear!!!

Jim C.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by ULYCYC

Jim, Rich and I can't wait for our 1998 rainchecks for now. Try and find out where is the rest of Avon's TSO winnings? Sounds like a few grand that you posted is missing

Let's do talk about missing monies? How about the THOUSANDS that your fearless BPG leader John C. cannot account for (Except the few hand written reciepts he presented after much prodding.) a couple of years ago during the GSCA Nats. when he was the event director or has that slipped your mind? I know, I bet it was covered up just as other issues within the BPG has such as why the events continue to fail and certain folks making sure to pump up the numbers to try an make it appear more successful that it really was. The only reason that the issue of the missing money was not pursued was that Richard chose to suck it up and chalk it up to lessons learned. This is one last attempt to make a go of it by the BPG by combining forces with another club. I don't give this event even two more years before it goes the way of Norwalk, Salem and the others. Time tells all things and we will see. There is a minority of sh*t stirrers within the BPG that have continually stirred the pot and now you are seeing it bubble over. Not so much fun now is it?

Jim C.

[kshrek]

In all candor Jim: I, as well as many others, find the idea of you genuinely wanting to join BPG almost as laughable as JR's claim to be "asking on behalf of others". (the line "a taste of ya'lls own medicine sound familiar?) Maybe I'm wrong but your original post read to me like another attempt to start throwing stones when the bulk of us just want this whole matter to go back to sleep at least until next years events.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by gbsean

why don'y you register on the site...you do not have to be a paid member to register....then you can ask all the questions you want... they will be answered you might not like the answers but at least you will get some..The BOD's will be more than happy to answer any specific questions...financials ARE AVAILABLE TO MEMBERS IN GOOD STANDING AS WELL AS THE TAX INFORMATION.. and I just went to the site and looked up the tax information ......what little respect I had for you just went down the toilet

So what you are saying is that I can get the financials once I join?

How am I supposed to be in "good standing"?

Why does the BPG membership start at 1000 instead of 1?

Why have so many of their other events failed?

Why is it that no one wants to answer these questions and gets offended when asked but has no issues playing 21 questions regarding the GSCA?

The bottom line is that a small minority of BPG members started this sh*t storm and now doesn't want to deal with it. Instead they want to play silly azz games. This same group has slung sh*t at the GSCA for years now and never really been called out for it. Now they have and they are trying the ole "We can read between the lines" two step. You weren't hollering this mess when ya'll were dog piling on the GSCA with your cronies now were you?

As for what little respect you had for me give me a break Sean. There was no respect there. Had there been days, weeks, months even years ago when I asked for there to be a live and let live truce it would have been so. Ya'll wanted to continually bash the GSCA with unfounded accusations and conspiracy theories. There have been many an issue that could have been worked on just fine without the back lot politicing of certain BPG members and why? To promote their own event? If that is the only way one can make it successful then something is wrong. As such lets not try and word things in such a manner as to try and influence others that are not involved in this in order to get one of the typical PBG or TBs "dogpiles" going on again. Let them make up their own minds and the chips will fall where they may.

Jim C.

[More_Boost!!]

Are you guys jealous because we had a golf cart race?

Or are you pissed cause you didn't get a Tiki Shirt...


If you need a Tiki Shirt GBSEAN has them, cheap!!!


you should come next year and enter the C0CK fight,
it is Sponsered by Big Stuff!!

Best Regards

[ULYCYC]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

Let's do talk about missing monies? How about the THOUSANDS that your fearless BPG leader John C. cannot account for (Except the few hand written reciepts he presented after much prodding.) a couple of years ago during the GSCA Nats. when he was the event director or has that slipped your mind? I know, I bet it was covered up just as other issues within the BPG has such as why the events continue to fail and certain folks making sure to pump up the numbers to try an make it appear more successful that it really was. The only reason that the issue of the missing money was not pursued was that Richard chose to suck it up and chalk it up to lessons learned. This is one last attempt to make a go of it by the BPG by combining forces with another club. I don't give this event even two more years before it goes the way of Norwalk, Salem and the others. Time tells all things and we will see. There is a minority of sh*t stirrers within the BPG that have continually stirred the pot and now you are seeing it bubble over. Not so much fun now is it?

Jim C.

Jim, nice rant but only a "I will see what happened to the rest of Avon's payout" was asked.This was not a tic for tac question

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by kshrek

In all candor Jim: I, as well as many others, find the idea of you genuinely wanting to join BPG almost as laughable as JR's claim to be "asking on behalf of others". (the line "a taste of ya'lls own medicine sound familiar?) Maybe I'm wrong but your original post read to me like another attempt to start throwing stones when the bulk of us just want this whole matter to go back to sleep at least until next years events.

No, this has been an on going issue and as usual cannot be left alone. It is ALWAYS the same key players wanting to create sh*t storms. My problem is that one should not start something they do NOT intend to finish. Being that these same members of the BPG have continued to try and make unfounded accusations and conspiracy theories fact I have made it a point to return the favor only with facts not conjecture. When the GSCA, Red, Ron, Richard, Bennett and Jim R. are left alone I will go back to my cage and play with my tire. Until then I will continue to return the favor in spades. I will gladly join the BPG. I have never been afraid to do much of anything. I have made myself aware of the workings of the GSCA by picking up the phone and reading. As such I find the bullsh*t that has been slung towards them over the years offensive. So why should I not join the BPG and see how they work. After all this is what certain members of the BPG wanted wasn't it. To create a split and make the GSCA fail. So let's dance!!!

Jim C.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by ULYCYC

Jim, nice rant but only a "I will see what happened to the rest of Avon's payout" was asked.This was not a tic for tac question

Clue me in on what you are talking about Ed. I will get an answer and find out what needs to be done. I don't understand though that why if Avon has an issue has he not picked up the phone and called Richard to ask him where his money is? I would have. He would get a straight answer. If he doesn't want to do so I will find out for him if you will clue me in. If you don't feel like typing it out call me, I should be available after 7:00-PM tonight. There are no hard feelings on my part. You and I have always spoken to each other as gentleman and I respect you for that.

Jim C.

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by More_Boost!!

Are you guys jealous because we had a golf cart race?

Or are you pissed cause you didn't get a Tiki Shirt...


If you need a Tiki Shirt GBSEAN has them, cheap!!!


you should come next year and enter the C0CK fight,
it is Sponsered by Big Stuff!!

Best Regards

I am not mad or jealous just tired of watching my freinds and an organization they have had for 27 years take an unwarranted beating year after year. They may not choose to confront the ones that attack them due to the childish insults that usually follow by standing up to this little internet bully group but I will. Cheers!!!

Jim C.

[ULYCYC]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

No, this has been an on going issue and as usual cannot be left alone. It is ALWAYS the same key players wanting to create sh*t storms. My problem is that one should not start something they do NOT intend to finish. Being that these same members of the BPG have continued to try and make unfounded accusations and conspiracy theories fact I have made it a point to return the favor only with facts not conjecture. When the GSCA, Red, Ron, Richard, Bennett and Jim R. are left alone I will go back to my cage and play with my tire. Until then I will continue to return the favor in spades. I will gladly join the BPG. I have never been afraid to do much of anything. I have made myself aware of the workings of the GSCA by picking up the phone and reading. As such I find the bullsh*t that has been slung towards them over the years offensive. So why should I not join the BPG and see how they work. After all this is what certain members of the BPG wanted wasn't it. To create a split and make the GSCA fail. So let's dance!!!

Jim C.

Jim, Just to add clarity to your statement, this has been going on long before the BPG was dreamed of. Many have had issues with GSCA, Red, Ron, Richard, Bennett and Jim R since the club/business was formed.

[Racing Jason]

I have a few question before I send in my check to join the GSCA. If I need to go ahead and join first to have these answered please let me know so that I may write out a check and send it in today. The questions I have are as follows -

Is the GSCA a not for profit Club or is it a business where one pesron reaps all the cash with very little going back to the alleged club of thousands.
I was curious as to whether or not it is ethical to use proceeds for personal use.

I am also wondering if I send my money in and join the GSCA if I will be brought up to date on issues concerning where the actual profit was from the GS Nationals. And who owns the GS Nationals is it part of the GSCA. If its not why do you have to be a member to participate. And what does the $50 registration fee go to when the workers are volunteers?

It sounds like it should have been substantial considering the amount of racers, sponsors, show cars and spectators that are always present. As such who keeps up with the finances and are there quarterly reports issued to the club members?

Are these hand written statements or actual spreadsheets that would hold up to an audit? I realize that other clubs have different format and as such if I am going to join the GSCA I would like to be abreast of the format they use.

What was the car count for the races and for the shows?

What was the spectator count and how much was it to get in to watch?

How many vendors attended? If the GS Nats needs more sponsorship how can I contribute to help recruit more vendors to this event?

How come when ever someone suggests to bring in some fresh ideas or complains about the GSCA they get postcards and letters all that seem similar and made by one or two sick individuals attacking the person(s) who inquired? Why have we never heard from the president for life of the GSCA on the internet? Are members allowed to join and be part of the innner workings of the GSCA?

Being that the GS Nats is as successful as they were this year there should have been a decent amount of money made. How is this money returned to the club and in what fashion? Or is it all pocketed.

Being that the GS Nats is for profit how are the taxes filed for said event in relation to the not for profit club?

Why are the racing rules so lax at the GS Natioanls. As previously pointed out many times over the GSCA lets the track and RRA’s determine the safety regulations for each class. I was told by some members who are not on the internet and asked me to inquire, that some cars are running in some fairly quick classes that do not adhere to NHRA standards for their time/speed achieved. How is this allowed to happen. With me being a club member would I be held liable if someone gets killed, like a guy who would run off the end of the track becasue of lax teching and is either killed or serious injured, and the ambulance never noticed it.

Thank you in advance for answers to these questions and again if I need to send in a check and membership form please let me know so that I may do so today.

Oh and lastly, why does the race director have a sign in name that a 3 year old would make up

[ULYCYC]

Originally Posted by Long Duk Dong

Clue me in on what you are talking about Ed. I will get an answer and find out what needs to be done. I don't understand though that why if Avon has an issue has he not picked up the phone and called Richard to ask him where his money is? I would have. He would get a straight answer. If he doesn't want to do so I will find out for him if you will clue me in. If you don't feel like typing it out call me, I should be available after 7:00-PM tonight. There are no hard feelings on my part. You and I have always spoken to each other as gentleman and I respect you for that.

Jim C.

I will call you

[Long Duk Dong]

Originally Posted by ULYCYC

Jim, Just to add clarity to your statement, this has been going on long before the BPG was dreamed of. Many have had issues with GSCA, Red, Ron, Richard, Bennett and Jim R since the club/business was formed.

Ed, I realize this and wish that it would stop. The real problem is that as long as these anonymous post card dipsh*ts continues to get attention they will continue to send them. I still believe a live and let live policy would bennefit all involved.

Jim C.

[joenational]

Originally Posted by Jim Rodgers

You mean you got a payout? No one else did. What did TSO pay in BG this year? Like 7 or 8 grand? What did you get at the nat trail?

Half witted newsletter? The BPG Buildsheet?

Oh my god!!!! I was not going to post about this sh!t again but this one really pissed me off...I was there speaking with the TSO winner face to face and was told how he got his winnings... And you my friend are a bold face liar.. He was told to go up to the sponsors himself and get, not cash prizes but gift certificates for things he cannot use which in no way amounted to 7 or 8 grand... What kind of sh!t is that? Before you attempt a response I am asking that you not bother because I already know that is true and anything you say will have no value at all...