An Essay on Iraq - Please Read

[stevemon]

sent to me via email:

This is the most cogent and powerful essay on the threat of Islamic terrorism I have seen. Dr. Vernon Chong. It is without a doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War in Iraq. If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay and give a fair evaluation. It's also eerily applicable to other current issues (Iran's nuclear program, immigration, NAFTA's impact on American jobs, trade deficits, etc.). I had no idea who Dr. Chong is , or the source of these thoughts... so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the Doctor and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs in California, and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about! (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)

If you would like to see who this fellow is, go to this Air Force web site and look him up. http://www.af.mil/bios/alpha.asp?alpha=C


Muslims, terrorist and the USA: A different spin on Iraq war.

This WAR is for REAL ! Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start

Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked

Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessor, President Ford.

3. Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?

Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Chris tian), that made no difference. You either went along with the administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).
(see http://www.Nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm)

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any others.
Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with?

There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions:

1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions:

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post-Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.

What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was, clearly, for terrorists to attack us until we were neutered and submissive to them.

We would, of course, have no future support from other nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason that they would see; we are impotent and cannot help them.
They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.
The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast! Without our support Great Britan will go too. reently I read that there are more mosques in England than churches.

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us if they were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslim terrorists, how could anyone else?

The radical Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that
100% effort to win.

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of this situation.

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added many more since then.
Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean, lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose.

I think some actually do, I hasten to add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred corpses through the streets of Iraq. And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners they held.

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.

These people are a serious and dangerous liability to the war effort. We must take note of who they are and get them out of office. Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but throughout the world. We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat anything bad in the world! We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman Empire. If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves, over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once they are in power.

They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses.

What is happening in Iraq is a good example. Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united, there is no way that we can lose. I hope now, after the election, the factions in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do whatever you can to preserve it. I reiterate. A national election is months away.

After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our children, our grandchildren, our country and the world. Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that includes the Politicians and media of our country and the free world!

Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders" in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!

Lastly, I wish to add: At the risk of offending someone, I sincerely think that anyone who rejects this as just another political rant, or doubts the seriousness of this issue or just deletes it without sending it on, is part of the problem. Lets quit laughing at and forwarding the jokes and cartoons which denigrate and ridicule our leaders in this war against terror. They are trying to protect the interests and well being of the US and it's citizens. Best we support them.

[Doc1of7]

It's refreshing to read where someone's got it *right*.
100% factual, and right on target.

[87bigcut]

This essay has some good info, most I have heard before, but put all together makes a lot of sense. I used to be 100% anti-war, but have been on the fence for a while now. Don't get me wrong, george bush is still a douchebag snake oil salesman. Either way, people dying is shitty, sending young cats to wars is shitty, the possiblilty of a draft is shitty.

"2. Why were we attacked

Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessor, President Ford."

100% factual? not this part, but it does seem romantic to simply protect our success and our freedoms, which is why it is said. Much better to say, "they hate us because our freedoms and our position" than "they are attacking us because our foreign policy" (which osama states is the reason in more than one tape I believe"

What I think the real problem is:

For the past 4-5 years I have had many dicussion on religion and what is real, not real, right, wrong, truth, made up to benefit someone etc.

I have found myself to completely detest organized religion. I believe there is a higher power, who I will not call god, but simply a higher power. This is based on my mind not being able to fathom millions of years of evolution, starting from the smallest single cell organism, that formed from a pool of "material". It leaves me in awe.

How many deaths have organized religion caused, the number is countless. You cannot deny this fact, no matter what you believe. Religion also influences politics way too much.

After saying that, no disrespect to practicers of religion, I reserve all that for the business that is religion.

Joe

[Steve Wood]

Not all religions profess to believe in turning the other cheek. The western world is not prepared to deal with an enemy that is singular in attitude. Such enemy has held the same beliefs for some 1400 years and has never relented in its attitude, desire, or ambitions.

We have become a society of instant gratification without the backbone to stay the course and do whatever it takes to insure our long term safety, freedom, and survival.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by 87bigcut

Don't get me wrong, george bush is still a douchebag snake oil salesman. Either way, people dying is shitty, sending young cats to wars is shitty, the possiblilty of a draft is shitty.

Welcome to the real world.
Ya, it'd be nice if all one had to do was lay around, and listen to their favorite music.

Ya, name calling has solved so much. <sigh>
If you don't like the man, vote for someone else, that's how the system works, you can thank the Demos for not being able to find someone better then Kerry. While you obviously don't like Bush, Kerry was order of magnitudes worse. Not to mention Teresea, ya, it'd have been great having her playing ambassador....

While ragging about the Draft has always been a popular thing to do, IMO, it should would eliminate some of current societies ills, if it was reinstated. For one it allows instills some respect in people, or allows them to respect others. While for some it wouldn't do much, it would at least allow others to develope into acting like men. So many *men* seem to think that breeding and acting macho is what it's about, rather then trying to make the world a better place to live. Not to mention with so many whining about wanting free/ resonsably priced health care, join the military, low cost health care is benefit of spending some time trying to better the world.

If all you want to do is write about what's wrong with the system, then IMO, you're as much of the problem, as those that work against America's interests.

Oh and BTW, while maybe you don't like organized religion, try imagining the world without the USA, or you again you might think about things other then from everythings *bad* point of view. Do you recall why the Puritains left England?. Again, it seems like your forgetting about how much good religion has brought to the world we live in. How about a world, without the 10 Commandments?.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by Steve Wood

We have become a society of instant gratification without the backbone to stay the course and do whatever it takes to insure our long term safety, freedom, and survival.

YEP ! !!!!

Anyone remember one of Bin Laden's first videos?. It's a shame seeing so many people proving him correct. Not to mention just how perfect the US Gummit is!. What goes around, comes around, has never been more accurate. People yammer about how screwed up politicians are, and yet, they're just a reflection of who primarily is voting. The same lack of long term thinking that's getting us into so many predicaments is just a reflection of the voters. It's laughable seeing people talking about jobs going overseas, and then seeing the parking lots at WallyWorld, and Lowz overflowing. If all you want to buy is foreign products, fine, just remember thou, saving that .0003 penny is costing some American his job. There's always a ying, and yang....

[87bigcut]

The 10 commandments? This is just someone writing down what should be done, if you subtract the relgious stuff. It is what any moral and rational person would do in the first place.

The last election was between two awful candidates, bottom line. I voted for who I believed was the lesser evil, thats all. I wasn't swinging from his tie like some people. I made the decision after some thought and research that Bush didnt do all that well in office, and wanted to see what Kerry could do. Either way, both parties are lacking.

I always here the older generation not having a problem with the draft, is it because they are too old to get drafted? I think that may be part of it. It may help society in some aspects, but again, more people dying. Also, what happens to the drafted after the war?

"If all you want to do is write about what's wrong with the system, then IMO, you're as much of the problem, as those that work against America's interests."

Please tell me this isn't directed towards me. What would you like me to do, pick up a sword and fix the government the way I want it? I have been told that writing about a subject is how you get people to think about a subject. Which in turn can change their minds. After saying that do I really believe as I have been told. I am on the fence as I have talked to people that are so stubborn and one sided that they will not admit a wrong or change their mind at all.

Even though I write about the wrongs of America, I would live no place else. Do I think that some things could be changed to make it better, yes. But no thing, no idea, no essay on a war is perfect.

Puritans escaped england because they believed that all existing churches had become corrupted by such things as kings and popes. I commend them on trying to reform the church, but don't argee with other things (thought they were superior to all other relgions).

America would have been settled anyway, but history would indeed be different it if organized religions was less prominent. Would it be for better or for worse, nobody can answer that.

"People yammer about how screwed up politicians are, and yet, they're just a reflection of who primarily is voting."

True to a certain extent, but politicans dont always do what they say they are going to do.

Joe

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by 87bigcut

The 10 commandments? This is just someone writing down what should be done, if you subtract the relgious stuff.

The last election was between two awful candidates, bottom line. I voted for who I believed was the lesser evil, thats all. I wasn't swinging from his tie like some people. I made the decision after some thought and research that Bush didnt do all that well in office, and wanted to see what Kerry could do.

I always here the older generation not having a problem with the draft, is it because they are too old to get drafted? I think that may be part of it. It may help society in some aspects, but again, more people dying. Also, what happens to the drafted after the war?

Please tell me this isn't directed towards me.

Even though I write about the wrongs of America, I would live no place else.

Puritans escaped england because they believed that all existing churches had become corrupted by such things as kings and popes. I commend them on trying to reform the church, but don't argee with other things (thought they were superior to all other relgions).

America would have been settled anyway, but history would indeed be different it if organized religions was less prominent. Would it be for better or for worse, nobody can answer that.

LMAO.
Your obviously one of those that are so spoiled that you really haven't been out in the real world.

FWIW, I was drafted. Am also glad to have served, and in my small way worked on making the world a better place, other then by typing at a keyboard.

Your a real peice of work, on one hand you have nothing to do, other then say how bad things are, and disreguard the progress of humanity. In short you've done nothing, see no real good in nothing, and probably will never contribute in any way to the betterment of any society.

You obviously haven't really researched things much, or have any real understanding about what Kerry Stand for. You really should have read Brinkley's autobiography of him, and then asked some questions, so that you wouldn't have wasted your vote. It's a shame now poorly informed some people are.

After the war?, geesh, you're really lost aren't you?. The *after the war* is what the politicians allowed to happen, ie 911. Cut back the intel communities, the military, fail to respond to attacks on America, and you wind up with 3,000 dead Americans. Or hadn't you noticed?.

Your assumptions about how things might have been without religion show that you don't want to look at opinions other then your own, and that you're not to going to be confused with any real logic. The point is, we're at, where we are, do to the way events have unfolded. Religion has played a pivitol role in human society. That is fact, to assume any other position is being no more then wishful.

Thou you write about how bad America is, you'd live no place else!. What an load of dodo. Go move, find someone that's good enough for you to get off your butt and work with making 1% of what you're taking so much for granted. It's really sad seeing someone trivialize America, as you have. You're just like so many that lay back and just do nothing but gripe. How sad......

[wmsonta]

Damnnn, Doc, I wished I had kwown you were going to reply.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by wmsonta

Damnnn, Doc, I wished I had kwown you were going to reply.

Ahh, just as I was about to hit send, I thought I missed doing something....
Next time, I'll try to remember to let ya know before I'm going to post... <G>

[Steve Wood]

Puritans were religious fanatics that wished to impose their extremism on all those about them. When someone equates religous freedom with Puritanism, it makes me question the comic book education that passes for history in this country.,

The Puritans wished to escape so they would be free to force people to behave as the church leaders determined. Public humiliation, abuse, and even burning those that disagreed with them at the stake are the examples of religious freedom they sought.

As far as reintroduction of the draft goes...that pops up now and then...most recently by democrats who want to politicize the war and create a public uproar for withdrawal so we can get back to business as usual....selling out the core strengths that made America what it is.

I seriously doubt that any military leader in his right mind would want a non voluntary army composed of a cross section of the youth of today. It would be impossible to instill the character required to meet the requirements needed to adequately serve our country. The break down of the parenting system and the failure to teach right or wrong from an early stage of life would be impossible to overcome. One would wonder if there was more danger from the enemy in front, or, the army behind.

As stated, The Ten Commandments would seem to be commonsense whether proposed by a religious sect, or not....somewhere along the line in the past 50 years, there seems to be a basic breakdown in the system which has caused the current "me first" syndrome. The basic ethics of the Ten Commandents are often only used to protect the individual...not the community.

Kennedy stated it correctly when he orated, "Ask not what my country can do for me, but, what I can do for my country" sic.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by Steve Wood

Puritans were religious fanatics that wished to impose their extremism on all those about them.

As far as reintroduction of the draft goes...that pops up now and then...most recently by democrats who want to politicize the war and create a public uproar for withdrawal so we can get back to business as usual....selling out the core strengths that made America what it is.

I seriously doubt that any military leader in his right mind would want a non voluntary army composed of a cross section of the youth of today.

As stated, The Ten Commandments would seem to be commonsense whether proposed by a religious sect, or not....somewhere along the line in the past 50 years, there seems to be a basic breakdown in the system which has caused the current "me first" syndrome. The basic ethics of the Ten Commandents are often only used to protect the individual...not the community.

Kennedy stated it correctly when he orated, "Ask not what my country can do for me, but, what I can do for my country" sic.

Without having been there, I won't speak in the absolute about what *they* thought. Yes, to some small degree they had to be slightly extreme, after all they left a civilized country to forge out on their own.

I was drafted in 68, got out, and relisted some years later, so I had the unique position of having served in a Draftee Army, and then in the all vounteer. Once you got past the barracks and were serving in the field there wasn't much difference. And when in a combat zone, it didn't matter a damm about who was a draftee, and who signed up. *We* all had a job to do, and for the most part tried doing our best.

While not part of the 10 Commandments, along those lines are the saying, God, Country, Family, Self. It's also an underlaying theme in the service. While it's easy to dismiss the 10 commandments as no big deal, and that they might have happened anyway, the true is they went down, the way the went down, and society has in large part revolved around them.

Kennedy had that line so *right*.
Too bad, so many people haven't a real clue about what it means, or have done anything other then think about themselves......

[wmsonta]

Originally Posted by Doc1of7

Ahh, just as I was about to hit send, I thought I missed doing something....
Next time, I'll try to remember to let ya know before I'm going to post... <G>

I posted a too long reply just before yours. I chose to delete it.

[Red Regal T]

Originally Posted by stevemon

sent to me via email:

This is the most cogent and powerful essay on the threat of Islamic terrorism I have seen. Dr. Vernon Chong. It is without a doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War in Iraq. If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay and give a fair evaluation. It's also eerily applicable to other current issues (Iran's nuclear program, immigration, NAFTA's impact on American jobs, trade deficits, etc.). I had no idea who Dr. Chong is , or the source of these thoughts... so when I received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I did a "Google search" on the Doctor and found him to be a retired Air Force Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs in California, and these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about! (the same Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)

If you would like to see who this fellow is, go to this Air Force web site and look him up. http://www.af.mil/bios/alpha.asp?alpha=C


Muslims, terrorist and the USA: A different spin on Iraq war.

This WAR is for REAL ! Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start

Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far as the United States is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked

Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessor, President Ford.

3. Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
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<SNIP>

I've been making the same points for months and months, and same Bush hating leftists are still making their same anti-American statements. Leftists cannot be reasoned with. The left and their media is behind all the lies and brainwashing simply to regain power ... political advantage is all it's about for the left, and the President and his administration are hampered by this lack of patriotism and honor in a time of war. The radical Muslims are not going away. The war will not end if we disengage. It's the crusades all over again for the 7th century fanatics, and the sooner Americans figure it out, the better.

[jasonlachapelle]

Interesting read. Dr. Chong has some impressive credentials.