What Would it take to turn a 84-87 Monte Carlo SS into and Monte Carlo T-type?

rakimb17 · 01-18-2006, 03:41 PM

I'm thinking about putting a 231 in a monte Carlo SS. What challenges will I face?

Shane · 01-18-2006, 04:00 PM

Off the top of my head....

Gas Tank (From Carb to EFI)
Fuel Rails
Wiring
More Wiring
Even more wiring
I think you'd need to replace the passenger side wheel well or do some surgery for the DP, but maybe not.

Typically when someone asks this question it's how hard would it be to convert an NA Regal to Turbo, but the same theory holds true. There's so many little odds and ends with the brackets and wiring that it would be cheaper just to buy a TR. Of course you're starting with a different body style....

That being said I know it's been done and I'm sure it'll turn out well. Try a search in the Hybrids section.

Grumpy · 01-18-2006, 06:44 PM

"donor car" ..$1000- the moon ... lots of time .. really not a big deal just time consuming .. also having a donor car ya have everything

Slow T · 01-18-2006, 06:55 PM

Also Wasting a good drivetrain on a ugly car

firebird_1252 · 01-19-2006, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow T

Also Wasting a good drivetrain on a ugly car

such a weird person you are.. tisk tisk.

anyway, gotta re run the fuel lines to the other side of the car
new fuel tank,
run wires for the pump
wiring harnneses
i think new motor mounts
and i'd go with a new rear.

and if its a 84 you need a diffrent trans.

GN13? · 01-19-2006, 10:38 AM

I think that will be a great project. I like the montes look but it came with a 305 boat anchor and to put a TR drivetrain will be bad ass!

RKHiPerformance · 01-19-2006, 02:24 PM

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Also Wasting a good drivetrain on a ugly car

As stated, a donor car is the way to go. You'll need everything from the radiator to the diff cover, and of course the gas tank.
Everything can be made to work, including the factory Monte tach and gauges. Casper's is a good source for swap harnesses.

No surgery is needed for the downpipe, even a 3" unit.

gbsean · 01-19-2006, 03:24 PM

That is pretty sweet looking ride

GN13? · 01-20-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gbsean

That is pretty sweet looking ride

Ditto

RKHiPerformance · 01-20-2006, 07:16 AM

Thanks for the compliments. The pic was taken in the staging lanes at Bowling Green this past year.

Long Duk Dong · 01-20-2006, 07:29 AM

Relocating the frame mounts
Fuel lines
Fuel tank pick up.
Wiring harness and accessories such ECM, all needed relays; etc.

While it is a very straight forward swap it will be somewhat time consuming. However, you do have one distinct advantage on your side and that is that they are both "G-bodies" as such they are cousins and other than sheet metal quite similar. Everything that is in the Turbo Buicks should swap over without much headache. They may be a few mounting point issues but nothing that can't be easily solved. Check in the Hybrid section as there are some very talented folks there and even a few that have done G-body swaps such as Malibu's and El-Caminos already. I would suggest getting together with someone who has a Turbo Buick and the two of you picking over each car in person and comparing notes as to the differences related to this swap. Two heads are most always better than one. Hope this helps.

Jim C.

8d7 gn · 01-20-2006, 10:07 PM

I think its like pissing off the back porch when its only 3 steps to the bathroom!

8d7 gn · 01-20-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 8d7 gn

I think its like pissing off the back porch when its only 3 steps to the bathroom!

I'm sorry to all the monteeee carlooooow fans. Its like calling a mustang 11 a pinto. WHY WHY WHY?

How about a Pontiac Grand Prix Aero Cp. 2+2 instead of that monteee carlooow.

Just build a nice SBC or better yet a BBC and put in that thing!

Russ85MCSS · 01-21-2006, 10:55 PM

I say the best way to go is have a Monte and a Regal for the best of both worlds!

firebird_1252 · 01-21-2006, 11:07 PM

wow hey russ whats up? hows the WE4? hows the monte running?

01-18-2006, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
rakimb17 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beale AFB, CA Posts: 7	What Would it take to turn a 84-87 Monte Carlo SS into and Monte Carlo T-type? I'm thinking about putting a 231 in a monte Carlo SS. What challenges will I face?

01-18-2006, 04:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Shane Free at Last Join Date: May 2001 Location: Chicago, IL / Dearborn, MI Posts: 602	Off the top of my head.... Gas Tank (From Carb to EFI) Fuel Rails Wiring More Wiring Even more wiring I think you'd need to replace the passenger side wheel well or do some surgery for the DP, but maybe not. Typically when someone asks this question it's how hard would it be to convert an NA Regal to Turbo, but the same theory holds true. There's so many little odds and ends with the brackets and wiring that it would be cheaper just to buy a TR. Of course you're starting with a different body style.... That being said I know it's been done and I'm sure it'll turn out well. Try a search in the Hybrids section. __________________ Shane Smith - - 86 Grand National TA-49, BlueTops, AFPR, Big Mouth Cold Air Kit, 3.5" MAF Pipe, LS1 MAF Sensor Translator Plus, Extender Chip, Walbro 340, Optima Red Top, F-Body Radiator

01-18-2006, 06:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Grumpy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Andover, Ma Posts: 12,068	"donor car" ..$1000- the moon ... lots of time .. really not a big deal just time consuming .. also having a donor car ya have everything __________________ Dan welcome to the Internet....where accurate information is scarce and in-accurate information is plentiful. 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Stuff has to go !!! email ttastage2@yahoo.com

01-19-2006, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
gbsean Not a Democrat any more.. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 14,326	That is pretty sweet looking ride __________________ UPCOMING BPG EVENTS 2010 Stage 1 CONVENTION July 30,31 Aug 1 2010 2011 TTA T-Type T-PARTY July 29,30,31 2011 11.599 @ 119.91 with issues Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com http://www.magnabuick.com/ see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich Last edited by gbsean; 01-16-2008 at 01:19 PM.

01-20-2006, 07:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
Long Duk Dong Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montgomery, AL, USA Posts: 1,612	Relocating the frame mounts Fuel lines Fuel tank pick up. Wiring harness and accessories such ECM, all needed relays; etc. While it is a very straight forward swap it will be somewhat time consuming. However, you do have one distinct advantage on your side and that is that they are both "G-bodies" as such they are cousins and other than sheet metal quite similar. Everything that is in the Turbo Buicks should swap over without much headache. They may be a few mounting point issues but nothing that can't be easily solved. Check in the Hybrid section as there are some very talented folks there and even a few that have done G-body swaps such as Malibu's and El-Caminos already. I would suggest getting together with someone who has a Turbo Buick and the two of you picking over each car in person and comparing notes as to the differences related to this swap. Two heads are most always better than one. Hope this helps. Jim C. __________________ "I have tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve. I have a history of losing my shirt." Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops good ideas from penetrating. www.cottonsperformance.com

01-18-2006, 06:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Slow T 1 of 1547 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ridgefield WA, U.S.A Posts: 606	Also Wasting a good drivetrain on a ugly car

01-19-2006, 10:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
GN13? Disgrutled 24/7 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Newark NJ Posts: 359	I think that will be a great project. I like the montes look but it came with a 305 boat anchor and to put a TR drivetrain will be bad ass!

01-20-2006, 07:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
RKHiPerformance www.MetcoMotorsports.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 297	Thanks for the compliments. The pic was taken in the staging lanes at Bowling Green this past year.

01-20-2006, 10:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
8d7 gn The STUDMONKEYS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cranberry PA. Posts: 438	I think its like pissing off the back porch when its only 3 steps to the bathroom!

01-21-2006, 10:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Russ85MCSS 87 WE4 /Blown 85 Monte SS Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Vancouver,Washington Posts: 22	I say the best way to go is have a Monte and a Regal for the best of both worlds! __________________

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