The nats gsca administration aka ron posts yet again

Buicksx2 · 08-20-2005, 09:08 PM

Good to see ron surfing the other boards...........nice use of commas yet again.

GS Nats. Administration Statement # 2
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CUT AND PASTE OF NICK’S POST OF 8/17/05 ON T6P.COM WITH OUR REBUTTALS INSERTED

“Below I have copied a post from the GSCA board as I no longer can post there. “

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Untrue ....your privilege to post on our BB has never been suspended or prevented. You made a post here on 8/16 at 1:06am addressed to Michele.

The below was cut and pasted from our Nats. General forum.

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Dear Michelle,

I must say after seeing all the threads on all the Buick boards I am very upset at these slanderous remarks. This attacks my personal integrity and my business ethics as well. If anything, for well over 15 years I have served the community and not only sold thousands and thousands of dollars in parts, but I have also always provided and repaired more cars than I can remember. Having known and helped you for many years, this comes as quite a shock to me?

Months ago you asked me to get your car in running order after being stored for over 2 years and it had a trans not operable as well. I even offered to buy the car rather to save you the expense to ship it back to Florida after you refused, what I considered a very reasonable offer, considering its condition. You have received over $3000 that I have sent you so far for parts sold, and told you I will pay for any parts I personally use.

My numbers are always listed, and any member of the boards can always call me to reach me for help, assistance and anything else that comes to mind. I have been away over a week, therefore if you sent me a certified letter, nobody was home, the same goes for e-mail or phone calls. However after reading all these allegations and slander, I will give you the opportunity to make a public apology, as you know there is much more to your story that is being told.

If you refuse to apologize for not only attacking my business, but also my integrity and my name, you can deal with my attorney. If you would like, I am home now, and will be available the rest of the week. You have my numbers. I refuse to participate or help someone who attacks me and makes personal attacks on a message board, I am beyond that in this point in my life.

Sincerely

Nick Micale

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“But thought I should at least address their blatent lies which seem to never end in the cover up of their ineptness in which they always lay the blame on someone else, not themselves.

In 2003 I took over the race director "position" as the then current one walked off the job on Wednesday with 3 more days of qualifying and eliminations. He did have enough class to guide me through the procedings, even though his leaving was a result of being over ruled on his decisions.”

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Rod Taylor walked off the job after a, non related to the Nats. race program, private $$ grudge race between two racers was held. One of these racers did not even stage while the other did. From the burn out box, the one not yet staged simply launched and left from the burn out box with the other car still staged and waiting for the opponent. In other words, he red lighted by about a week in advance. Obviously he got to the traps first. When the "race??" was over, the car that red lighted stated he won because he went thru the traps before the other car. An argument ensued between the two and Rod stepped in and said it was an unfair race and had to be re-run. The red-lighter verbally assaulted Rod and included racial slurs and etc. within it. John Chamberlain then steps in and tells Rod and the racers that the red lighter wins and should get the $$. (WHAT ??) After John's display of an absolute lack of fair, sound, or any good judgment and not supporting and backing him, Rod understandably walked off in total embarrassment and disbelief.
Nick was asked to replace Rod in the interim after this debacle. By replace, it was meant to take over the authority and controls that Rod had. No more, no less.

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“This is their logic that the race director's "responsibilities were never to concern himself with the race rules". I am far from the smartest person on the planet, but I do have enough smarts that if this WAS true, and relayed to me in 2003, I would have NEVER asked for the position.”
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You did not ask for the position. Unwisely, we asked you to fill in just to get the event back underway and completed which was after getting Richard's approval. It was well after that it was thought that you might be the person to permanently replace Rod and assume the responsibilities that he had been assigned. It's now very evident that with your attitude now being displayed, it was a huge mistake.

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“If you look at the "statement" below made by the GSCA, you can plainly see the 2003 and 2004 incidents are very similar? This is because it only happened in 2004.”

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Back in 2003, you overruled James West and allowed Willard Brown to race in TSE with two obvious rule infractions i.e., illegal tires and a required head light not in place.
AND HE WON THE RACE !!!
Strike one !

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“When this issue was brought to me, both John and I reviewed the situation and decided in favor of the racer. The reason for this was a flaw in the rules describing the turbo in question.”

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There was no flaw in the turbo spec rules. The turbo had to have "one round opening" and not a ported shroud as was on the illegal TSM car’s. Also, that type turbo did not meet the 6 months previous being available stipulation.
Strike two !

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“As a side note, anyone remember who was the illegal car in 2003 that I allowed to run that won his class? Neither do I since it never happened. “

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We do, see above. (Willard Brown)

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“The statement that I "ignored this racer oriented system" is actually laughable! It is racer oriented, but just to specific racers.”

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Who or what racers ? To add authenticity to your claim, would you advise us who the specific racers were, what class was involved, what rule was changed or established for their benefit, and about when each instance occured ?

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“The TSO car that was "clearly illegal by every racer in the class" is again a total lie. This has already been disputed by a racer who was actually there. “

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Cal Hartline advised us that in his opinion along with the other TSO racers he spoke to that it was illegal in more than one area.
The proverbial "last straw.'

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“Speaking of being there, at none of these awful "trials" where I was judge, jury and executioner was Richard, Ron or Red there to see what “
actually happened.

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Why did they have to be there ? Nearly every club member that was racing TSO this year was there and observed it. James West was there in 2003 and 2004 as was Scott Simpson in 2004.

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“I would certainly welcome the V-8 guys that I "tried to influence" to step forward as this also never happened.”

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Bobb Makely was the one. You had approached him a total of two times. After the second approach he told you to step back and stay out of it. For further proof of this, read his post from the following link from t6p.com.

www.t6p.com/forums/showth...#post61208

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“It is really sad that I had to even do this post because the administration feels like they had to publish a reason why I no longer wanted to be part of their organization. It was clear in my leaving I did not agree with their policies and procedures or their attitude towards most of the racers. “

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Nor did we agree with your dictatorial policies, procedures, and attitude towards all of the racers.

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“Upon leaving I told no lies about them, made untrue statements or tried to make anyone look stupid or incompetent. They are very capable of doing that themselves. ”

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You might want to re-read your posts on this page.

www.t6p.com/forums/showth...ge=2&pp=10

This thread verifies the statement you make above to be a fabrication or worse.

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“Last week in Salem Ohio at the BPG Buick event, organizers and directors were gathered in a meeting with a purpose of unity within and among the Buick community. The GSCA elected not to join us in this effort as was stated they would. So can we assume they must feel their agenda is the dominant one, not that of the majority? ”

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Considering the attacks that you have launched against Richard, the GSCA, Nats., and others, no one from our administration would even remotely think of attending.

GS Nats. Administration

Zap · 08-20-2005, 09:55 PM

Rich, I think you should join the GSCA again and shoot for number 5!

I don't think it would take all that long.

Buicksx2 · 08-20-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap

Rich, I think you should join the GSCA again and shoot for number 5!

I don't think it would take all that long.

>>>If I could get on I would certainly go for 5 but at 4 bannings and holding I think my title is secure for now.

Zap · 08-20-2005, 10:21 PM

I still like you, you are OK in my book, and my "OK" book ain't very thick.

The Radius Kid · 08-20-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap

I still like you, you are OK in my book, and my "OK" book ain't very thick.

Yeah,but your head is.

Buicksx2 · 08-20-2005, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap

I still like you, you are OK in my book, and my "OK" book ain't very thick.

>>>You're OK in my book too Zap and my OK leaflet is thin also...........just like me.........lol.

I even think some people from Canada are OK too

Zap · 08-20-2005, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buicksx2

I even think some people from Canada are OK too

Yeah, I guess you are right. I like Razzamatazz

Steve Wood · 08-20-2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buicksx2

>>>You're OK in my book too Zap and my OK leaflet is thin also...........just like me.........lol.

I even think some people from Canada are OK too

Time for a personality census

1FASTV6 · 08-21-2005, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap

I still like you, you are OK in my book, and my "OK" book ain't very thick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buicksx2

>>>You're OK in my book too Zap and my OK leaflet is thin also...........just like me.........lol.

I even think some people from Canada are OK too

Why don't you guys get a room with movies!

Buicksx2 · 08-21-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1FASTV6

Why don't you guys get a room with movies!

>>> We are, we are rooming together at Cecil. It will be good to finally meet Zap so him and I can continue to build our comedy alliance together to fight evil.

Zap · 08-21-2005, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1FASTV6

Why don't you guys get a room with movies!

If Anthony87 brings the movies and the strippers, I'm all for it!!!

rastaz · 08-21-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zap

If Anthony87 brings the movies and the strippers, I'm all for it!!!

Hey, I'd even travel clear across the continent for that

Nothing like strippers, Buicks, and grape Kool Aid

J Banning · 08-21-2005, 10:57 PM

Can someone post the correct links to the threads on t6p.com. They aren't working for me.

ajt86 · 08-22-2005, 12:13 AM

i know not alot of people like nick- but i must say he bailed me out a bunch of times when i needed parts fast and told me- just put a check in the mail when you have time. i dont get involved with the race classes, so maybe hes different around there?

08-20-2005, 09:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Buicksx2 I got it figured out Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: At The WAWA Posts: 4,580	The nats gsca administration aka ron posts yet again Good to see ron surfing the other boards...........nice use of commas yet again. GS Nats. Administration Statement # 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CUT AND PASTE OF NICK’S POST OF 8/17/05 ON T6P.COM WITH OUR REBUTTALS INSERTED “Below I have copied a post from the GSCA board as I no longer can post there. “ ----------------- ------------------------------------ Untrue ....your privilege to post on our BB has never been suspended or prevented. You made a post here on 8/16 at 1:06am addressed to Michele. The below was cut and pasted from our Nats. General forum. ===================================== Dear Michelle, I must say after seeing all the threads on all the Buick boards I am very upset at these slanderous remarks. This attacks my personal integrity and my business ethics as well. If anything, for well over 15 years I have served the community and not only sold thousands and thousands of dollars in parts, but I have also always provided and repaired more cars than I can remember. Having known and helped you for many years, this comes as quite a shock to me? Months ago you asked me to get your car in running order after being stored for over 2 years and it had a trans not operable as well. I even offered to buy the car rather to save you the expense to ship it back to Florida after you refused, what I considered a very reasonable offer, considering its condition. You have received over $3000 that I have sent you so far for parts sold, and told you I will pay for any parts I personally use. My numbers are always listed, and any member of the boards can always call me to reach me for help, assistance and anything else that comes to mind. I have been away over a week, therefore if you sent me a certified letter, nobody was home, the same goes for e-mail or phone calls. However after reading all these allegations and slander, I will give you the opportunity to make a public apology, as you know there is much more to your story that is being told. If you refuse to apologize for not only attacking my business, but also my integrity and my name, you can deal with my attorney. If you would like, I am home now, and will be available the rest of the week. You have my numbers. I refuse to participate or help someone who attacks me and makes personal attacks on a message board, I am beyond that in this point in my life. Sincerely Nick Micale ================================ “But thought I should at least address their blatent lies which seem to never end in the cover up of their ineptness in which they always lay the blame on someone else, not themselves. In 2003 I took over the race director "position" as the then current one walked off the job on Wednesday with 3 more days of qualifying and eliminations. He did have enough class to guide me through the procedings, even though his leaving was a result of being over ruled on his decisions.” ------------------------------------- Rod Taylor walked off the job after a, non related to the Nats. race program, private $$ grudge race between two racers was held. One of these racers did not even stage while the other did. From the burn out box, the one not yet staged simply launched and left from the burn out box with the other car still staged and waiting for the opponent. In other words, he red lighted by about a week in advance. Obviously he got to the traps first. When the "race??" was over, the car that red lighted stated he won because he went thru the traps before the other car. An argument ensued between the two and Rod stepped in and said it was an unfair race and had to be re-run. The red-lighter verbally assaulted Rod and included racial slurs and etc. within it. John Chamberlain then steps in and tells Rod and the racers that the red lighter wins and should get the $$. (WHAT ??) After John's display of an absolute lack of fair, sound, or any good judgment and not supporting and backing him, Rod understandably walked off in total embarrassment and disbelief. Nick was asked to replace Rod in the interim after this debacle. By replace, it was meant to take over the authority and controls that Rod had. No more, no less. ------------------------------------- “This is their logic that the race director's "responsibilities were never to concern himself with the race rules". I am far from the smartest person on the planet, but I do have enough smarts that if this WAS true, and relayed to me in 2003, I would have NEVER asked for the position.” ------------------------------------ You did not ask for the position. Unwisely, we asked you to fill in just to get the event back underway and completed which was after getting Richard's approval. It was well after that it was thought that you might be the person to permanently replace Rod and assume the responsibilities that he had been assigned. It's now very evident that with your attitude now being displayed, it was a huge mistake. -------------------------------------------- “If you look at the "statement" below made by the GSCA, you can plainly see the 2003 and 2004 incidents are very similar? This is because it only happened in 2004.” ----------------------------- Back in 2003, you overruled James West and allowed Willard Brown to race in TSE with two obvious rule infractions i.e., illegal tires and a required head light not in place. AND HE WON THE RACE !!! Strike one ! ------------------------------------ “When this issue was brought to me, both John and I reviewed the situation and decided in favor of the racer. The reason for this was a flaw in the rules describing the turbo in question.” ---------------------------- There was no flaw in the turbo spec rules. The turbo had to have "one round opening" and not a ported shroud as was on the illegal TSM car’s. Also, that type turbo did not meet the 6 months previous being available stipulation. Strike two ! -------------------------------------- “As a side note, anyone remember who was the illegal car in 2003 that I allowed to run that won his class? Neither do I since it never happened. “ ----------------------- We do, see above. (Willard Brown) ----------------------------------- “The statement that I "ignored this racer oriented system" is actually laughable! It is racer oriented, but just to specific racers.” ------------------------------------- Who or what racers ? To add authenticity to your claim, would you advise us who the specific racers were, what class was involved, what rule was changed or established for their benefit, and about when each instance occured ? --------------------------------------------------------- “The TSO car that was "clearly illegal by every racer in the class" is again a total lie. This has already been disputed by a racer who was actually there. “ ----------------------------- Cal Hartline advised us that in his opinion along with the other TSO racers he spoke to that it was illegal in more than one area. The proverbial "last straw.' ------------------------------------------------------------ “Speaking of being there, at none of these awful "trials" where I was judge, jury and executioner was Richard, Ron or Red there to see what “ actually happened. ------------------------- Why did they have to be there ? Nearly every club member that was racing TSO this year was there and observed it. James West was there in 2003 and 2004 as was Scott Simpson in 2004. -------------------------------------- “I would certainly welcome the V-8 guys that I "tried to influence" to step forward as this also never happened.” ---------------------------------- Bobb Makely was the one. You had approached him a total of two times. After the second approach he told you to step back and stay out of it. For further proof of this, read his post from the following link from t6p.com. www.t6p.com/forums/showth...#post61208 ------------------------------------------------ “It is really sad that I had to even do this post because the administration feels like they had to publish a reason why I no longer wanted to be part of their organization. It was clear in my leaving I did not agree with their policies and procedures or their attitude towards most of the racers. “ --------------------------------- Nor did we agree with your dictatorial policies, procedures, and attitude towards all of the racers. ------------------------------- “Upon leaving I told no lies about them, made untrue statements or tried to make anyone look stupid or incompetent. They are very capable of doing that themselves. ” ------------------------------------------------------------ You might want to re-read your posts on this page. www.t6p.com/forums/showth...ge=2&pp=10 This thread verifies the statement you make above to be a fabrication or worse. ------------------------------------------------ “Last week in Salem Ohio at the BPG Buick event, organizers and directors were gathered in a meeting with a purpose of unity within and among the Buick community. The GSCA elected not to join us in this effort as was stated they would. So can we assume they must feel their agenda is the dominant one, not that of the majority? ” ------------ ------------------- Considering the attacks that you have launched against Richard, the GSCA, Nats., and others, no one from our administration would even remotely think of attending. GS Nats. Administration __________________ Rich from Rich's Custom Auto in New Jersey. We don't know what we are doing, but we do know what we are charging!!! Piece of $hit in the middle of the road Home of the Jack,GPB,MPWB & MILFS Home of the 9 second Street cars 9.02@153.60, 1.33 60' in Newman "SLVRSTG" thru the Exhaust Buicksx2@AOL.com JCC Racing Team President Been banned 4 times in my life from the GSCA BB.....now who else can say that!!! Comedian

08-20-2005, 09:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zap Boorn Looser Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 21,226	World Record for Bannings already...but Rich, I think you should join the GSCA again and shoot for number 5! I don't think it would take all that long. __________________ With ten nurses knocked out in just the first week, Steve Monroe realized that building the Old Boxers home next to the bell factory wasn't such a great idea Join the NRA

08-20-2005, 10:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Zap Boorn Looser Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 21,226	I still like you, you are OK in my book, and my "OK" book ain't very thick. __________________ With ten nurses knocked out in just the first week, Steve Monroe realized that building the Old Boxers home next to the bell factory wasn't such a great idea Join the NRA

08-21-2005, 10:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
J Banning Alcohaulin' Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 5,794	Can someone post the correct links to the threads on t6p.com. They aren't working for me. __________________ Banning Cohen 1986 T-Type WH1 10.62@125.45 (1.43 best 60') Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Club Director & Delaware State Rep. Sign up for the 2008 MAGNA Points Series Mods: New combo in the works -- 109 block, big turbo, Michael's TH400 w/brake

08-22-2005, 12:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
ajt86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sicklerville, NJ Posts: 2,324	i know not alot of people like nick- but i must say he bailed me out a bunch of times when i needed parts fast and told me- just put a check in the mail when you have time. i dont get involved with the race classes, so maybe hes different around there? __________________ Traenkner Performance Tunes Tuning most 98-present GM PCMs, including solstice/sky turbo, d-max, LS1, LS2, 3800 platform, S-T truck, CK truck, ford mustang 05-07 plus ford F-150 04-07 and more.... Performance or Economy tunes available

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