The Ultra94 Price Gouge.

motorhead · 07-20-2005, 04:45 PM

As some of you are aware, probably all of you, we pay a premium for high octane fuels. Fine. Well it has come to my attention that Sunoco has jacked up their surcharge on Ultra94 by another 2 cents/litre. Needless to say in the wake of ever rising gas prices... I wanted some answers.

*Ahem!*

Quote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lis
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:47 PM
To: SGHCustomer
Subject: Justify It.

To who it may concern (That is a laugh! As this is falling on deaf, or at
least ears muffled with insane profit levels),

I want to hear the rationale in the continuous increase in the cost of
Ultra94 gasoline in the province of Ontario.
A 4 cent increase per litre sold in the last, what, two years? Wow...
now I am paying +14 cents per litre over regular.

Garbage.

Regards,

Michael Lis * BID
Construction Planning Designer

To which they replied:

Quote:

Good afternoon and thank you for your email. In answer to your question,
our Sunoco Ultra 94 has increased for the cost of the components that
make up Ultra 94 has increased. Please keep in mind that this is a
specially blended gasoline. We do believe that the price of Ultra 94
which is three octane numbers above any other gasoline available at the
pumps, which combines the highest octane for engine performance with
detergency for cleaner engines and ethanol for environmental
performance, is competitive and offers great value. Please do not
hesitate to contact me at either number noted below should you wish to
discuss the many benefits of our Sunoco Ultra 94. In addition, we have
also attached a link for your convenience from our website regarding our
Ultra 94 Celebrate Summer Contest.

http://www.sunoco.ca/ultra94contest/default.asp?id=195

Thank you

Jenny Stathopoulos
Customer Relations Co-ordinator
416-733-7423 / 1-888-858-7242

I can't keep from laughing... To me it reads like this: The cost of the extra materials over the cost of the already outrageous base product has increased and as such because no one else offers this kind of product we are passing the savings... err... costs along to you, the consumer.

Oh and can I please participate in your little contest? Hello, with these gas prices I can barely afford to leave home, much less "Celebrate Summer".

I think I need to request a chemical/cost break down of just what components made the price rise so dramatically in this fuel. Are they lacing this fuel with steel particulate? Because steel is the only industry (next to crude oil) that has seen such a obnoxious rise in price in the last year or so.

87GTA-turbo · 07-20-2005, 05:09 PM

Damn, they wouldnt even send you a coupon!?
Well they dont even have Sunoco by me...

MR Buick · 07-20-2005, 05:30 PM

There are 2 Sunoco stations around here and both no longer sell Ultra 94.

They suck

Gnat352 · 07-20-2005, 05:34 PM

Mike, I just walked through the door from coming back from Sunoco, The one by me has 87,89,93,94, I always used Super, now I just use ultra

, The price is high but it's not a big problem unless you drive the car every day

TTA89 · 07-20-2005, 05:38 PM

What is even worse than that is the Sunoco's around here quit selling 94 and moved there Ultra down to 93 yet they still sell it at 10-12 cents higher than any other 93 octane gas station.

How they stay in buisness is beyond me!

Grumpy · 07-20-2005, 07:33 PM

well my daughter would only run Sunoco in her car's .... I have alky now and run 93 weasel piss in it with NO knock ... But only 27-28#s

...gas price difference is 30-40 cents per gal !!!!

ajt86 · 07-20-2005, 10:03 PM

hmm ours is difference we have luk oil (mobile) and sunoco next door to eachother- ultra 94 is a penny more a gallon than mobiles 93- then sunocos 93 is 3 cents less than mobiles 93. i used to drive the GN everyday with ultra 94- now i drive my beater truck daily and use citco 87- or US Gas

nero · 07-20-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy

well my daughter would only run Sunoco in her car's .... I have alky now and run 93 weasel piss in it with NO knock ... But only 27-28#s

...gas price difference is 30-40 cents per gal !!!!

YOU'RE A GENIUS!!!!! WITH ALKY, THE CHEAP GAS STATIONS WILL SUFFICE?... RIGH? C'MON SOMEONE REASSURE ME!!!!

FREE STATE HERE I COME!!!

forzfed · 07-20-2005, 10:29 PM

Mike, never start a letter with, "To whom it may concern". No wonder you got a BS response!

What do you pay for 94? I filled the car up last week with 94 and it was .88/liter. I thought that wasn't too bad.

ajt86 · 07-20-2005, 11:20 PM

cmon guys- we all know the metric system sucks- lets talk gallons here- it confuses me

fubar2.5 · 07-21-2005, 12:11 AM

HEY mike e-mail them again and ask what the profit margin is exactly on the different grades of gas.AND HOW COME IN THE US THERE ISA10 CENT INCREASE AND IN CAN. IT IS 14CENT A LITRE,DIFFERENCE.
14cents times 3.72L for you guys that don't know metric

More_Boost!! · 07-21-2005, 12:44 AM

i payed a personal record of 1.19 a liter last week....

motorhead · 07-21-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by More_Boost!!

i payed a personal record of 1.19 a liter last week....

forzfed, there ya have it. I found that even their 89 octane has increased a cent a litre to +7 cents over regular (87). Will it never end?

ULYCYC · 07-21-2005, 11:07 AM

Isn't around 50 cents a litre in gas tax supporting Canada's liberal programs. Crude is high but your taxes are higher. You should be protesting at Parliament not Sunoco.

motorhead · 07-21-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ULYCYC

Isn't around 50 cents a litre in gas tax supporting Canada's liberal programs. Crude is high but your taxes are higher. You should be protesting at Parliament not Sunoco.

Damn your sense making self, Ed.

Then doesn't the real question lie in where your 50 cents/litre is going given that you don't have Canadian liberal programs?

07-20-2005, 05:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
87GTA-turbo Stupidest man alive. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 2,391	Damn, they wouldnt even send you a coupon!? Well they dont even have Sunoco by me... __________________ Steve- “It only gets worse...." 1987 GN, Moonroof, GNX dash, 109 .030 TRW Forged TE-62, G Body DP, 204/214cam, 60-65 Siemens inj, Extender chip, LS1 MAF, port matched intake and heads, Razor's meth. inj. CK Trans, Pats 2800 conv, Metco LCA's Monitored by:PLX WB, EGT, SM & DS 11.8 @ 117 w/ the 4.1 (RIP) 7/08 1987 Gray Regal T LS1 MAF, 32lb inj, Chip, mostly stock 2001 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 I6 4x4

07-20-2005, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
MR Buick Post Ho Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME Posts: 3,483	There are 2 Sunoco stations around here and both no longer sell Ultra 94. They suck __________________ My GNs

07-20-2005, 05:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gnat352 JCC RACING Join Date: May 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 4,285	Mike, I just walked through the door from coming back from Sunoco, The one by me has 87,89,93,94, I always used Super, now I just use ultra , The price is high but it's not a big problem unless you drive the car every day __________________ FERRET JOE JCC RACING MEMBER #1951 87 "T" TE60,,60# injectors/TT Alky Chip,,ADJ FPR,,ADJ Wastegate,,,RJC Boost Controller,,Razor Alky,,3" SE Turbo DP,,Cotton Performance 3" Dual Exhaust,,5 angle valvjob/bowl work,,307 hotwired,,F-Body Radiator,,Casper's Dual Fans,,ATR Bar,,Comp 980's,,Powerlogger,,RJC Power Plate,,UMi Lowers,,Bilstiens in all corners,,New Springs,,Dutt Neck IC,,ART CARR 9.5 Converter,,DYNOTECH HI-PRO TRANS, Nitto's....thats it for now...... 11.90 @110mph with 21PSI on pump and alky...

07-20-2005, 05:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
TTA89 I want a Z06 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Pahk the Cah Posts: 5,993	What is even worse than that is the Sunoco's around here quit selling 94 and moved there Ultra down to 93 yet they still sell it at 10-12 cents higher than any other 93 octane gas station. How they stay in buisness is beyond me! __________________ -Mike I used to own fast cars

07-20-2005, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Grumpy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Andover, Ma Posts: 11,121	well my daughter would only run Sunoco in her car's .... I have alky now and run 93 weasel piss in it with NO knock ... But only 27-28#s ...gas price difference is 30-40 cents per gal !!!! __________________ Dan dont run your mouth if you cant run your car 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Time to get out! Stuff has to go !!! Otherwise I am cutting it up and throwing it away email ttastage2@yahoo.com

07-20-2005, 10:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
ajt86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sicklerville, NJ Posts: 2,324	hmm ours is difference we have luk oil (mobile) and sunoco next door to eachother- ultra 94 is a penny more a gallon than mobiles 93- then sunocos 93 is 3 cents less than mobiles 93. i used to drive the GN everyday with ultra 94- now i drive my beater truck daily and use citco 87- or US Gas __________________ Traenkner Performance Tunes Tuning most 98-present GM PCMs, including solstice/sky turbo, d-max, LS1, LS2, 3800 platform, S-T truck, CK truck, ford mustang 05-07 plus ford F-150 04-07 and more.... Performance or Economy tunes available

07-20-2005, 10:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
forzfed Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Winterpeg Posts: 5,567	Mike, never start a letter with, "To whom it may concern". No wonder you got a BS response! What do you pay for 94? I filled the car up last week with 94 and it was .88/liter. I thought that wasn't too bad.

07-20-2005, 11:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
ajt86 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sicklerville, NJ Posts: 2,324	cmon guys- we all know the metric system sucks- lets talk gallons here- it confuses me __________________ Traenkner Performance Tunes Tuning most 98-present GM PCMs, including solstice/sky turbo, d-max, LS1, LS2, 3800 platform, S-T truck, CK truck, ford mustang 05-07 plus ford F-150 04-07 and more.... Performance or Economy tunes available

07-21-2005, 12:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
fubar2.5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hamilton ON CA Posts: 372	HEY mike e-mail them again and ask what the profit margin is exactly on the different grades of gas.AND HOW COME IN THE US THERE ISA10 CENT INCREASE AND IN CAN. IT IS 14CENT A LITRE,DIFFERENCE. 14cents times 3.72L for you guys that don't know metric __________________ Ron {Fuzzy} He who hesitates is "last" 87GN 11.65@116+

07-21-2005, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
More_Boost!! My GN has a baby seat Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Great White North EH. Posts: 2,714	i payed a personal record of 1.19 a liter last week.... __________________ A closed mouth gathers no feet

07-21-2005, 11:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
ULYCYC Fuhgeddaboudit Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 16,519	Isn't around 50 cents a litre in gas tax supporting Canada's liberal programs. Crude is high but your taxes are higher. You should be protesting at Parliament not Sunoco. __________________ ED BAKER 87-T, Maplight equipped rear view mirror.. 93 PARK AVE"SUPERCHARGED" BPG#1458 My Photo Page buickperformancegroup.com "As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken 1927 Last edited by ULYCYC : 07-21-2005 at 11:09 AM.

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