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Old 05-14-2004, 07:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bring Down Gas Prices! It will help!

Everyone has an idea to get the gas prices down but this one may work?? In Canada Shell & Petro Canada are the 2 biggest.
Dont know the states but same idea. Dont buy from the 2 biggest companies period. Spend your money with the other guys. If everyone did this the prices would come down in a week. The 2 big boys would lower prices if they had little or no business. I'm only buying Sunoco & hope in some small way that if many others follow it will lower the prices. Just an idea?? Cant hurt to try!
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First of all I think ESSO is the biggest.
Second -by boycotting certain brands you are only hurting the franchisee or independent.
All oil or gas comes through the same pipeline and gas companies rent space on them.
Also gas companies have a gas exchange with each other if needed so you buy their gas whether or not you boycott certain brands.
Blame the GOVERNMENT they are making millions in extra revenue.
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Old 05-15-2004, 12:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-15-2004, 03:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Blame Bush, where do you think most of his families money came from?? Oil and gas.....as long as he is president the price of gas will keep going north.
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Old 05-15-2004, 12:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 05-15-2004, 02:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Most of his families money comes from baloney? Bush baloney? I thought they made beans?

Blame the liberals. No new oil refineries built in decades because of their namby-pamby laws.

Oh yeah...damn liberals!
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Old 05-15-2004, 05:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What I can't understand is why the gas prices are going up and up when we now own Iraq. I thought we went to war over there to take all of their oil.
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Old 05-15-2004, 05:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They are at half capacity or something like that??
How else do you pay for a war? It cost heavy $$$ and the
cash has to come from somewhere? 10 cents a gallon adds up real quick & for sure the Govt is gettin a good chunk of it IMO
Thats why the oil & gas people get away with it even when I thought price fixing was illegal. They are already talking about using the extra cash in the news to repair roads in Canada. Guess thats how they justify it to the people here? Its all just BS but I'm sure there are MANY other opinions!! This is just mine whether its right or wrong I dont know?? I know that there is something that dont smell quite right!!
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Old 05-15-2004, 07:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Demand has increased, refinery capacity has dropped dramatically as Zap stated due to the cost of refurbishing them to comply with environmental regulations which made some just shut them down rather than spend a lot of money. Then you have states like California that basically decided to ban new installations to preserve their fruit and flake culture.

Then we have the Saudis and a couple of other producers like Venezuela and Mexico that have bad problems at home and need the cash to try to stay in power so they have no interest in increasing production to moderate the price.

Some think the Saudis are particularly worried that the extreme religious right in their country will overthrow the ruling family in order to further their dreams of a new world empire so the Saudis are funneling money to them in order to encourage them to stir up problems elsewhere in the world.

In the end, we are to blame for the shortages for our lack of foresight over the last 25 years where we decided to put our energy needs in the hands of others rather than creating incentive to be in the oil business in our own country.
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A few years back I read how Siberia was completely full of oil reserves and the Russians were going to develop them to further their economics and put the arabs under...............guess they never got their shizzit together

That or their in bed with the saudis...........who knows..............but I do know this.

Who wants to bet gas drops round election time
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Old 05-15-2004, 09:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well, I remember taking Economics in University. Gasoline, tobacco, alcohol are all what is referred to as inelastic material. Meaning what ever the price, people are still going to buy. How many people said, "That's it when cigarettes hit $5.00 a pack, I'm going to quit!" But they still smoke. How many alcoholics quit drinking when the price of a bottle or case of beer went up?

It's big business, supply and demand. The oil companies are deliberately reducing the supply to drive up prices. A barrel of oil closed yesterday at $41.38, this is a 52 week high. Two weeks ago it was sitting around $35.00. What about reserves? Funny how fuel that has been sitting in tankers and bought for half the price today is still selling for the inflated price. Look at the profits these oil companies have been pulling in! Gas company stocks have gone up 50-100% in the last 3 years. Hey I don't like the increase in price but it doesn't bother me that much that I would stop buying it.

In Canada lots of the cost is in taxes. They should at least drop the GST portion of it. My buddy owns a gas station and he makes a pathetic $0.02/litre. You have to sell lots of gas to make money on gasoline. When there is a price war, he makes even less, only 1.5 cents/litre. That is one reason I wouldn't boycott a gas station because I know what my buddy has to go through. He also has a hoist in his shop that I always use!

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Old 05-15-2004, 09:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If one thinks that Bush would have a conspiracy to raise gas prices in an election year, one better think about the rationale behind that!

Russians ruined their reservoirs thru over production and they cannot crank it up.

The Saudis wish to control exploration, development, production, and refining....they want us to sit back and buy the finished products from them. Due to our drop in refining capacity, we are.

We have been digging the hole for the last 25 years and people like Kerry, Kennedy, the Californians, etc. have been one of the prime instigators of the problem.

No company with any sense wants to take the risk of working in this country and being jacked around with regulations and law suits.
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If one thinks that Bush would have a conspiracy to raise gas prices in an election year, one better think about the rationale behind that!
I am thinking of that..............and at the same time............as wrong as it may be I am all to aware of the short attention span and memory of the American public in this day of age.

The frickin media is rampant and the sheep...........well most of them eat it up.

Come election I am fairly certian he will negotiate something........ and will be seen as a hero for it............when the time is right.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Old 05-15-2004, 10:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That's it! I'm putting an end to it NOW!

I will no longer run my lawn mover.

That'll teach 'em.
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Old 05-15-2004, 10:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You don't negotiate with the saudis. You explain to them that you are going to pull out and leave them to deal with all those that hate their guts by themselves...You tell them to take their oil and drink it...but, the American public would go beserk with what the price of oil then goes to.

Bush just needs to whisper in their ear that Kerry ain't going to take care of them and they better figure out whom they would rather have as president.

The American people will not be allowed to forget it in election year. If they crank up production, the dems will claim Bush had a deal with them. If they don't, the dems will claim he did nothing.

It's all about politics for the rest of the year. If Bush walks across water, they will claim he polluted a potential drinking water source with the dirt on his shoes, and, if he takes off his shoes, they will claim that the bacteria on his skin killed a snail darter that lived in the water.
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