testing the waters. tta 345 for sale

[fasTTA707]

well i keep on saving up to fix the car and one thing after another comes up that keeps me from getting it accomplished so i think its time to chalk it up as a learning experience and let someone with more money and know-how take over from here.

TTA #345 less than 75k miles in really good condition. its NOT perfect but i babied it and it looks better now than it did when i got it due to all the detailing and care i put into it. t-top leather car, seats have normal wear and headliner is a little bit saggy but other than that the interior looks great!

now the downside.... car does not run. it turns over but will not start. the motor has not been pulled out and opened up, but the diagnosis thus far is that the crankshaft is broken. long story short i was going 35mph up a hill and BAM...thats all she wrote. was NOT racing or dogging the motor it just...well... happened. the motor never spilled any fluid and STILL doesn't even leak after sitting in the garage for several months. i continue to keep the car clean, i push it out of the garage and wash it regularly. EVERYTHING on the car works, of course with the exception of the motor at this time (i know that sounds stupid but you know what i mean haha)

here's the deal, i owe about 10 grand on the car. i have know idea what they're going for now and i know the market on these things is a roller coaster. to conform with the rules of the forum i will post my price at $10,000 OR BEST OFFER!!!!!! i can provide pics of any aspect of the vehicle you'd like to see and would even be willing to mail u a video tape of the car if you'd like to see it even better. let me know if you have any interest. thanks for reading.

[Grumpy]

I think ya might find the water pretty cold .... TTAs have never been a "hot" seller to begin with ... I paid $13,500 for a car with 8500 miles on it ... don't know what else to tell ya ... maybe out there its different with the sun shining all the time ??!! Good Luck

[fasTTA707]

wow... that sounds to me like u got a pretty good deal! i have seen prices for these cars all over the board and maybe geographical location does have something to do with it, who knows. just to make things a little clearer, my "asking price" is really what someone is willing to pay. as i said i owe 10 on the car so the bank has the title.... so i will have to cover the balance in order to clear up the title for the new owner which wont be a problem if i get within a few thousand bucks of 10 grand which i think is reasonable for the car in its condition despite the fact that its not running. i could part it out but i'd REALLY rather not do so considering the bank does technically own it and my credit would be at stake if for some reason i didn't recover enough funds to pay it off after it was parted out. once again pics and/or video are available on request. thanks again for the feedback.

[Grumpy]

Bryan ...time of year , location all make a difference !!! hey tax refund season is coming up soon !!! Ill give ya the other side of sellin a "broken" car .. IF the car is NICE you may get someone to pay decent $$$ an they will use it as a project car ... put a little $$$ in now an then ! I bought a few cars like that when I was younger ... YA they had cars way back then to !! good luck with your sale .. you might try and ebay it ?? just put a reserve and start it cheap an see where it goes

[Orlando_87GN]

1. Selling a car with a broken crankshaft for $10k isn't going to work.
2. Just because you owe x amount of money on a bank loan doesn't mean the car is worth that much. It's called being upside down.
3. Are you sure the crank is even broken? That's pretty rare especially if you were just driving along. Where do you live and who has diagnosed this car (and how). I'd like to know what symptoms flagged a 'broken crank'.

[NOCOOLER]

Originally Posted by Orlando_87GN

1. Selling a car with a broken crankshaft for $10k isn't going to work.
2. Just because you owe x amount of money on a bank loan doesn't mean the car is worth that much. It's called being upside down.
3. Are you sure the crank is even broken? That's pretty rare especially if you were just driving along. Where do you live and who has diagnosed this car (and how). I'd like to know what symptoms flagged a 'broken crank'.

I completely agree - if the crank is snapped, fix it or take a bath on it.

If the crank snapped - you'd have oil everywhere, are you sure the timing chain didn't break?

[fasTTA707]

thanks for explaining what "upside down" means to a guy who's sold cars for the last 4 years.... please re-read my post and show me where i said i was trying to get $10k for the car or where i named an amount that the car was worth anywhere in my post. i was afraid to even post this car on one of these buick forums because some of you guys just flame people's posts to feed your huge ego's.... moderators i would really appreciate it if the last two posts would be erased.... grumpy... THANK YOU for the positive comments.

symptoms of a broken crank.... car turns over and attempts to start but all of the pulleys on the front of the motor stay stationary.

folks... i'm 21 years old... i'm not a mechanic, i'm not a genius, but i'm not an idiot and dont appreciate being treated like one. if you dont have anything nice to say, please dont say anything at all. i'm not trying to rip someone off here, if you're interested make me an offer....if you're not then don't. thanks again at least you're keeping my post up towards the top. take care.

[NOCOOLER]

Originally Posted by fasTTA707

thanks for explaining what "upside down" means to a guy who's sold cars for the last 4 years.... please re-read my post and show me where i said i was trying to get $10k for the car or where i named an amount that the car was worth anywhere in my post. i was afraid to even post this car on one of these buick forums because some of you guys just flame people's posts to feed your huge ego's.... moderators i would really appreciate it if the last two posts would be erased.... grumpy... THANK YOU for the positive comments.

symptoms of a broken crank.... car turns over and attempts to start but all of the pulleys on the front of the motor stay stationary.

folks... i'm 21 years old... i'm not a mechanic, i'm not a genius, but i'm not an idiot and dont appreciate being treated like one. if you dont have anything nice to say, please dont say anything at all. i'm not trying to rip someone off here, if you're interested make me an offer....if you're not then don't. thanks again at least you're keeping my post up towards the top. take care.

We are not flaming you - just stating the pure facts.

BTW - Orlando_87GN is the site owner/moderator.

Edit: have you checked the key in the front of the crank? It may have broke.

[Orlando_87GN]

please re-read my post and show me where i said i was trying to get $10k for the car or where i named an amount that the car was worth anywhere in my post.

Ok... you said:
"here's the deal, i owe about 10 grand on the car. i have know idea what they're going for now and i know the market on these things is a roller coaster. to conform with the rules of the forum i will post my price at $10,000 OR BEST OFFER!!!!!! "

I think you need to learn how to take some constructive critisism. If you took my post as a 'flame', then I guess a 'flame' means something in general that a person doesn't like to hear.

Now back to the important question. You admit you are not a mechanic and that is fine. Have you had a professional that specializes in Buicks to diagnose the problem? The very guys you are getting snotty with here are trying to help you diagnose your car and possibly fix your car instead of accepting the fact that a crank shaft broke while you were doing 35mph.

Hint, the car wouldn't even attempt to 'fire' if the crank is broken because the cam sensor would not be spinning.

[Orlando_87GN]

Also the woodruff key that locks the balancer to the crank could have sheared right off. Motor would turn over but not start because of no crank signal.

[Grumpy]

ok gotta throw one thing out here ...you can break a crank in half and not spill a drop of oil !!! I did it in Melissa's Limited T AND I was just getting on the highway and the car stalled .. I heard a niose like a belt coming off ... tried startin it and it did nothing !!! locked !! soooo towed it home an took it a part . Really didnt see to much besides a broken wrist pin soooooo I proced to take it all apart.... crank looked funny then I took it out in 2 pieces !!!! Melissa has never let me forget that I blew up HER car !!! hey it only had a gazillion 11 sec runs on it ..oh ya 218k on it

[NOCOOLER]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

ok gotta throw one thing out here ...you can break a crank in half and not spill a drop of oil !!! I did it in Melissa's Limited T AND I was just getting on the highway and the car stalled .. I heard a niose like a belt coming off ... tried startin it and it did nothing !!! locked !! soooo towed it home an took it a part . Really didnt see to much besides a broken wrist pin soooooo I proced to take it all apart.... crank looked funny then I took it out in 2 pieces !!!! Melissa has never let me forget that I blew up HER car !!! hey it only had a gazillion 11 sec runs on it ..oh ya 218k on it

Really - I figured it would make a mess......

[fasTTA707]

thats what i thought too. i figured that would just destroy the motor but apparently this has happened more than once. i still dont know 100% that its even the crank but i was told by the mechanic who looked it over that he checked all the other things that people have mentioned it might be. i DO appreciate the comments as far as trying to help solve the problem, i just dont appreciate the comments about the car not being sell-able on my post where i'm trying to sell the car lol. please understand. its a really nice car and its a shame that the motor failed and its a shame i have to get rid of it because its the car i've wanted since i was 12 and i only got to drive it for a few months! if i could afford to keep it i would but at this point in my life i just dont see that happening.

[Orlando_87GN]

The first part of fixing your own car is you need to miss driving it. Seems like you have that part. Now I know you said you weren't a mechanic but can you remove the spark plugs and take the oil pan off? With the spark plugs out you can rotate the flywheel with your hands (have some gloves on) to watch the crank spin. You need to get a visual on what is happening and why the 'pullys' aren't spinning when the starter is engaged. Does the starter have a busted nose? This might be a very simple problem and these guys are the best to help. Where do you live as sometimes you can find someone that would come over to help with some beer of course.

[rastaz]

[quote=Orlando_87GN] Now I know you said you weren't a mechanic but can you remove the spark plugs and take the oil pan off? With the spark plugs out you can rotate the flywheel with your hands (have some gloves on) to watch the crank spin. QUOTE]

Good advice to determine if the crank is broken... You'll have to pull the motor mount bolts and lift the motor about 6 inches to get the pan off though...