Advice sought...

mjdwyer23 · 02-08-2010, 09:20 AM

**COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL CONTENT BELOW**

Say, hypothetically, that stuff at one's current job was "getting weird," and one was considering submitting one's CV to a company out in San Jose/Santa Cruz area in CA (suburbs thereof). Now, this person isn't getting canned, and could probably work at this job as long as he/she wanted, but might not be getting compensated fairly for the contribution he/she makes. Would it be worth uprooting and leaving security/comfort of home in X state for 30% more salary and a cooler job? FYI this area of CA a house similar to our subject's house is around $325k, competitive buyer's market.

What say you?

TTA-343 · 02-08-2010, 11:17 AM

Hmmmm....

The old should I stay,Or should I go...

Well..In my case,I have made a few complete career changes...They didnt take me out of State,But they felt risky to me none the less.

Each time always worked out for the best,And I never regretted a decision that I made...Im glad to know that I will never have to wonder..."What if".

I think that everyone knows when it is time to move on..Being that the Question is even being asked,I think the person already knows the answer...For some reason,It is just better to hear it from other people also.

Scott GN231 · 02-08-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mjdwyer23

Would it be worth uprooting and leaving security/comfort of home in X state for 30% more salary and a cooler job? FYI this area of CA a house similar to our subject's house is around $325k, competitive buyer's market. What say you?

My advice would be to do some very careful analysis of the available state/local cost of living data (I believe both The Economist and WSJ publish some reasonable indicies every once in a while). One of my wife's cousins lives in San Jose and at first blush your housing estimate looks very low.

Knowing this person's field, I'd also be thinking first not about the short-term salary comparisons, but about the potential for more substantial **long-run** growth. They'd be paying high CA taxes and housing costs for quite a while and frankly I'd be skeptical that a 30% raise off of anything other than an insane salary base would make them whole. With that as a frame of reference I'd be making the comparison based on mid-to-longer-term compensation vs. happiness / growth and stability.

It's never easy, that's for sure, but choices are good!

Please send my best wishes and regards to said individual.

PhillyTurboSix · 02-08-2010, 11:40 AM

I have a friend that did such said HYPOTHETICAL situation, from here to there. While my friend loves it out on the west coast he said for the extra money he got moving out there ( and funny you say 30% more said person would make because that is exactly what his income went up going out there) it pretty much evened him out because everything out there is so much more expansive then here. Eating out, fuel, taxes, etc, etc,. He said to me once I'm here and I love it but I think how rich I would be if I was back there on the east coast.

Now that being said and said persons job is getting "weird" it might be worth looking into. Said person should plan a trip out that area for a week and just do things said person would do here and see how the area is and how expensive things are. Personally I would go out there for such a visit if I were said person with the attitude of "I'm going to hate it here" so the overwhelming feeling of moving to a new and exciting place didn't get to me. But that's me

J Banning · 02-08-2010, 11:49 AM

Higher pay, but higher cost of living. I'd take into consideration where this person's friends and family are. Cooler job might be enticing but is it as a stable/reliable employer as the current one? Are there other similar job prospects in this part of CA should this new job not work out? Will the new employer offer any assistance with moving costs, etc.?

mjdwyer23 · 02-08-2010, 01:03 PM

The area for life and work would be gilroy, about 45 mins south of San Jose. Cost of living in the metro area is retarded, but south is much cheaper. Believe, me, there exists a spreadsheet for everything!

The way the financials work out, it would be a cost of living increase as well as a large increase in comparative salary. The plan might be to move for 5 years until kids come along, then come back east.

ttypewe4jim · 02-08-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mjdwyer23

The way the financials work out, it would be a cost of living increase as well as a large increase in comparative salary. The plan might be to move for 5 years until kids come along, then come back east.

That is something I would strongly take into consideration, if you are planning to have kids in the near feature I would strongly look into if the move is really worth it. Also think about how much farther away from your family you will be ( If they are close now...) I had a opportunity to move to Houston for a fire fighting job, I did not take the position because I would be to far from my family.... Job's come and go family does not.

jhuber · 02-08-2010, 01:49 PM

Hypothetically, if you moved...errr said person moved...said person would still be a MAGNA member if said person was in fact a MAGNA member!!!!

STAY HERE!!!!!!!!! Cali is too far away!!! ...err...hypothetically...well really it is far!!!

3.8junkie · 02-08-2010, 03:16 PM

Cost of living on the West Coast is generally more. (given) Otherwise everyone would move for more $$.

I'd have fun with the current job. If "he/she" can stay there as long as they want. Why not have some fun with it? Take the "weird" as a challenge. I know I do at my job.

Remember its just a job, career or whatever you want to call it. Unless its your own company we are all dispensable.

I agree with Banning, if you have a close family near by now.....that's a big one too overlook.

Its not always about the money. Maybe "he/she" could transfer to another department.

Good luck with the decision - who ever you are.

jbrouse · 02-08-2010, 04:05 PM

I totally agree with the proximity to family thing. If said person has a significant other, they need to be VERY sure that person is 100% on board with the idea. The adjustment will be way worse if they have to deal with a new job and living situation as well as "I miss my family, why did you do this to me". And don't just take their word for it, see how their and your family feels about it.
Been there, and it sucked, and mine was only a 45 min ride to visit!

Good Luck,Hypothetically of course

Scott GN231 · 02-08-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mjdwyer23

The plan might be to move for 5 years until kids come along, then come back east.

If this person leaves their current job very respectfully-- tons of advance notice, sincere offer to mentor their replacement-- perhaps the option to re-join their current firm down the road (at a higher level) could be left open.

Some folks seem to do pretty well at using this strategy to climb the career ladder and a little courtesy in leaving goes a long way.

Purple87SS · 02-08-2010, 05:20 PM

Why not just ask your current employer for a well deserved raise and make it worth staying. And can you explain "weird" to us. Is their a hot "cougar" boss lady coming onto you(NICE!!!!), or do you know someone in the same position as yourself making better money?

Yullose · 02-08-2010, 08:00 PM

There isn't enough money in the world to convince me to live in CA.

Not in a million years.

gbsean · 02-08-2010, 09:06 PM

Grass is not always greener....would weigh all the options...I myself would not move to CA...nice place to visit...but to stay...no way...

02-08-2010, 09:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
mjdwyer23 Money Pit Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 2,177	Advice sought... COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL CONTENT BELOW Say, hypothetically, that stuff at one's current job was "getting weird," and one was considering submitting one's CV to a company out in San Jose/Santa Cruz area in CA (suburbs thereof). Now, this person isn't getting canned, and could probably work at this job as long as he/she wanted, but might not be getting compensated fairly for the contribution he/she makes. Would it be worth uprooting and leaving security/comfort of home in X state for 30% more salary and a cooler job? FYI this area of CA a house similar to our subject's house is around $325k, competitive buyer's market. What say you? __________________ Matt Dwyer SOLD -- 1987 WE4, PT52, PTE front mount, 50 Lbs., 70mm TB/Hemco upper, Razor's Alky, THDP, RJC EVERYTHING! ATR stainless 3" exhaust, Test pipe with electric cutout, GN spoiler, Turbo Tweak chip, Scanmaster, 11.58@120 1.8 60' SOLD -- 70 Chevelle -- 427, solid roller, forged.

02-08-2010, 11:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
TTA-343 I know 9sec. Pete!!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right Here... Posts: 1,479	Hmmmm.... The old should I stay,Or should I go... Well..In my case,I have made a few complete career changes...They didnt take me out of State,But they felt risky to me none the less. Each time always worked out for the best,And I never regretted a decision that I made...Im glad to know that I will never have to wonder..."What if". I think that everyone knows when it is time to move on..Being that the Question is even being asked,I think the person already knows the answer...For some reason,It is just better to hear it from other people also. __________________ Some people are like slinky's... They are not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face if you push them down a flight of stairs..

02-08-2010, 11:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
PhillyTurboSix cRaCk wH0rE Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 5,130	I have a friend that did such said HYPOTHETICAL situation, from here to there. While my friend loves it out on the west coast he said for the extra money he got moving out there ( and funny you say 30% more said person would make because that is exactly what his income went up going out there) it pretty much evened him out because everything out there is so much more expansive then here. Eating out, fuel, taxes, etc, etc,. He said to me once I'm here and I love it but I think how rich I would be if I was back there on the east coast. Now that being said and said persons job is getting "weird" it might be worth looking into. Said person should plan a trip out that area for a week and just do things said person would do here and see how the area is and how expensive things are. Personally I would go out there for such a visit if I were said person with the attitude of "I'm going to hate it here" so the overwhelming feeling of moving to a new and exciting place didn't get to me. But that's me __________________ Jim C Pennsylvania State Representative for MAGNA 86 Grand National CF5 car loaded - Stocker 87 Grand National CC1 car, late build, with low options. Rebuilt. All the basic mods ,some goodies, and a lot of shiny stuff. Featuring Razor's famous Alky kit! 89 Turbo Trans Am #396 CC1 leather. Garage Princess. Stock 30K original Featured in Hemmings Muscle Machines. Feb. 06 Turbo Tweak Chips in ALL my cars BPG Board of Directors Member #2050 http://www.buickperformancegroup.com/index.html GSCA Member #5314

02-08-2010, 11:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
J Banning www.magnabuick.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 6,538	Higher pay, but higher cost of living. I'd take into consideration where this person's friends and family are. Cooler job might be enticing but is it as a stable/reliable employer as the current one? Are there other similar job prospects in this part of CA should this new job not work out? Will the new employer offer any assistance with moving costs, etc.? __________________ Banning Cohen 1986 T-Type WH1 10.62@125.45 (1.43 best 60') Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Club Director & Delaware State Rep. Sign up for the 2010 MAGNA Points Series Someday this all might come together: Girdled 109 stroker, 76GTQ 4-bolt turbo, Bronsonian Stage IV heads, 83's and Razor's dual nozzle, Turbotweak Speed Density w/WBo2 control, Powerstroke IC, Michael's TH400 w/transbrake, 33 spline Mosers & full spool, 325/50/15 drag radials.

02-08-2010, 01:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
mjdwyer23 Money Pit Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 2,177	The area for life and work would be gilroy, about 45 mins south of San Jose. Cost of living in the metro area is retarded, but south is much cheaper. Believe, me, there exists a spreadsheet for everything! The way the financials work out, it would be a cost of living increase as well as a large increase in comparative salary. The plan might be to move for 5 years until kids come along, then come back east. __________________ Matt Dwyer SOLD -- 1987 WE4, PT52, PTE front mount, 50 Lbs., 70mm TB/Hemco upper, Razor's Alky, THDP, RJC EVERYTHING! ATR stainless 3" exhaust, Test pipe with electric cutout, GN spoiler, Turbo Tweak chip, Scanmaster, 11.58@120 1.8 60' SOLD -- 70 Chevelle -- 427, solid roller, forged.

02-08-2010, 01:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
jhuber In WayToo Deep Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Blackwood, NJ Posts: 5,821	Hypothetically, if you moved...errr said person moved...said person would still be a MAGNA member if said person was in fact a MAGNA member!!!! STAY HERE!!!!!!!!! Cali is too far away!!! ...err...hypothetically...well really it is far!!! __________________ Sign up for the 2010 MAGNA Points Series John Huber Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Assistant Club Director & New Jersey State Rep. Buick Performance Group BPG Member #2033 #2 rocks to the tune of 12.25@107mph, Stock turbo #2 rocks to the tune of 10.98@121mph, TA49 turbo Huber at Cecil 2008 Huber at Atco 2008 Huber 10.98 at 121 7.97 at 175 GN 7.97 at 175 GN ...all this and a WH-1 too!!!

02-08-2010, 03:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
3.8junkie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bear, DE Posts: 547	Hypo Cost of living on the West Coast is generally more. (given) Otherwise everyone would move for more $$. I'd have fun with the current job. If "he/she" can stay there as long as they want. Why not have some fun with it? Take the "weird" as a challenge. I know I do at my job. Remember its just a job, career or whatever you want to call it. Unless its your own company we are all dispensable. I agree with Banning, if you have a close family near by now.....that's a big one too overlook. Its not always about the money. Maybe "he/she" could transfer to another department. Good luck with the decision - who ever you are. __________________ Kelli &/or Charles Cox - 86 T-type (stage II) Just about finished 87 Turbo T "real" stock and slow 26K miles 87 Turbo T mild 10.96 89 TTA (garage queen) #1234 under 7K miles 13.01 99 TA 13.10 I KNOW CPP ARE THIEVES !!!!!

02-08-2010, 04:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
jbrouse Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sellersville,Pa Posts: 48	I totally agree with the proximity to family thing. If said person has a significant other, they need to be VERY sure that person is 100% on board with the idea. The adjustment will be way worse if they have to deal with a new job and living situation as well as "I miss my family, why did you do this to me". And don't just take their word for it, see how their and your family feels about it. Been there, and it sucked, and mine was only a 45 min ride to visit! Good Luck,Hypothetically of course __________________ Joel- 87 GN T-tops, old school ta-60,PTE front mount,3.5 ss downpipe,17" TT II's

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Purple87SS Will Boost 4 Boobies!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,682	Why not just ask your current employer for a well deserved raise and make it worth staying. And can you explain "weird" to us. Is their a hot "cougar" boss lady coming onto you(NICE!!!!), or do you know someone in the same position as yourself making better money? __________________ MAGNA- Dir. of Public Relations 1987 TURBO T WE4(1 of 1547) "Yeah, it's only a !" CPT 66BB,210/215 roller cam, Harland Sharp 1.55 roller rockers, Bronsonian Stage 3 porting, 65lbs injectors, Michael's Built 200 trans w/ Art Carr 9" 3200stall L/U converter, Razor's Alkycontrol, Thundefab SLIC, RJC Power Plate,RJC Boost controller, TT 5.6 Alky chip, Mease 3" downpipe w/ dump and Innovative LC-1 WB, Hotwired Walbro 340, Hooker Aerochamber Duals, K&N w/ LT1 MAF & Translator, 4" RJC MAF pipe, ATR rear sway bar and PS airbag, boxed stock lower control arms, KYB shocks, Weld Draglites wrapped in Mickey's, Huber drive shaft loop, Huber laptop stand, Powerlogger & Scanmaster 2.1 Best to date:11.59@115.3 Best mph- 118 mph 1987 Monte Carlo SS- "Purple People Eater" 2007 Chevy TrailBlazer SS- "Daily Driver"

02-08-2010, 08:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Yullose Certified gun nut Join Date: May 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 1,843	There isn't enough money in the world to convince me to live in CA. Not in a million years. __________________ Art Wittig / Reading, PA '87 GN... RJC girdled 109, +.020 Diamond pistons, K1 rods, Cat crank, T/A heads, Champion intake,plenum and fuel rails, 1.55 TA rockers, 70mm Accufab, 214/214-.548/.548 Comp hyd roller, Comp 26120 beehives, 70GTQ, 83lb injectors, A1000 pump, MagnaFuel regulator, 15gal aluminum cell, Razors Alky kit, GN1 FMIC, LS1 MAF & translator, TurboTweak 6.0 chip, Powerlogger, LM-1 Wideband O2, 3" THDP, ATR Pitbull exhaust, TH400 w/brake, 9.5" PTC, Dynotech 3.5" alum DS, Moser C-clip axles.

02-08-2010, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
gbsean Not a Democrat any more.. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 14,338	Grass is not always greener....would weigh all the options...I myself would not move to CA...nice place to visit...but to stay...no way... __________________ UPCOMING BPG EVENTS 2010 Stage 1 CONVENTION July 30,31 Aug 1 2010 2011 TTA T-Type T-PARTY July 29,30,31 2011 11.599 @ 119.91 with issues Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com http://www.magnabuick.com/ see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

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