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05-15-2008, 06:04 AM
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| Dr. Nehi  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philly area
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|  Best manual brake setup? Mach.80 has a great post here on his approach that uses a Wildwood manual master (Willwood 260-9439) and a G-body adapter from Drag Race Brakes. His total cost was $340 shipped and: Quote:
For simplicity's sake I'm not inclined to do a junkyard swap from another GM car. Thanks for any and all feedback, Scott
__________________ 1987 Buick Grand National 10.22@130.9mph (1.47 60') on E85 Mods: Bronsonian ported iron heads with stock valves, 70GTQ, Comp Cams 214/214 roller, Cotton's FMIC, 95# injectors, Aeromotive A1000, FAST XFI tuned by Dale Cherry, Cotton's 3.5" downpipe, 44mm Tial gate, ATR 2.5" exhaust, 9.5" Vigilante, Eaton posi, Moser 28 spline axles. | |
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05-15-2008, 09:10 AM
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| www.magnabuick.com  Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, DE
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I'm interested in doing the same too. Scott: If you haven't done so already, I'd suggest you post this same question in the Tech section of this site and turbobuick.com -Banning.
__________________ Banning Cohen 1986 T-Type WH1 10.62@125.45 (1.43 best 60') Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Club Director & Delaware State Rep. **Sign up for the 2010 MAGNA Points Series** Someday this all might come together: Girdled 109 stroker, 76GTQ 4-bolt turbo, Bronsonian Stage IV heads, 83's and Razor's dual nozzle, Turbotweak Speed Density w/WBo2 control, Powerstroke IC, Michael's TH400 w/transbrake, 33 spline Mosers & full spool, 325/50/15 drag radials. |
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05-15-2008, 11:00 AM
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| MAGNABUICK.com .. NJ rep Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: englishtown racewaypark
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havent done it but i always thought that our powermaster bracket (the steel plate thats attaches to the firewall ) works for manual mastercylinders and would save you some $$ and make the install that much easier , far as know the alum bracket would only be needed for those guys who had vac booster going to manual, also recall there being a mopar manual MC that gets the job done
__________________ paul ....central NJ... the 86gn stock shortblock 71Q and some other boltons 1.46 10.41 129.85-etown in recovery , temp bone stock engine and turbo 12.50 107 @ 18psi -atco the 87gn te44 pac duttneck 11.31 120.9 @22psi 12.14 109.19 stock turbo at 22psi chips by turbotweak.com  the 86 and some other Magna GNs having some fun at Atco Raceway http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...8c013e4547.htm 2010BPG member... #2045 Last edited by pacecarta; 05-15-2008 at 11:07 AM. |
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05-15-2008, 12:49 PM
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| In WayToo Deep  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Blackwood, NJ
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  | I am going manual in #7...Wilwood is where I'd look for optimum braking too!!!
__________________ Sign up for the 2010 MAGNA Points Series John Huber Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Assistant Club Director & New Jersey State Rep. Buick Performance Group BPG Member #2033  #2 rocks to the tune of 12.25@107mph, Stock turbo  #2 rocks to the tune of 10.98@121mph, TA49 turbo Huber at Cecil 2008 Huber at Atco 2008 Huber 10.98 at 121 7.97 at 175 GN 7.97 at 175 GN  ...all this and a WH-1 too!!! |
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05-15-2008, 01:02 PM
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Hoober you need to get some baseball cards printed so we can keep track of what number is what?!?
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05-15-2008, 01:06 PM
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| In WayToo Deep Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Blackwood, NJ
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| I used to be able rattle off their VIN's...well, when I only had to remember 4 of them!!!
__________________ Sign up for the 2010 MAGNA Points Series John Huber Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Assistant Club Director & New Jersey State Rep. Buick Performance Group BPG Member #2033 #2 rocks to the tune of 12.25@107mph, Stock turbo #2 rocks to the tune of 10.98@121mph, TA49 turbo Huber at Cecil 2008 Huber at Atco 2008 Huber 10.98 at 121 7.97 at 175 GN 7.97 at 175 GN ...all this and a WH-1 too!!! |
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05-19-2008, 08:15 AM
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| Dr. Nehi Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philly area
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|  Update: Lots of good info coming in on the thread I created on turbobuick.com. If folks are interested in this idea check it out. I'm all but certain to go with the Willwood 260-9439 unit. Just trying to figure out the best pedal ratio and setup and that will be that. |
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05-19-2008, 11:13 AM
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| All Go, No Show!!!!  Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Maryland
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A buddy of mine converted both his 67 Camaro and 72 Nova to manuals. He used a Mopar master cylinder. He just ran 9.2 with Camaro and he said that they worked fine. The good thing is they are readily available at any parts stores if you need one in a hurry. If you are interested I can ask him about his conversion.
__________________ Doug Martin, aka "D-HAM" Old Reliable, 1987 WE4 "Rat Rod" Best time 10.35@131mph with a PT54 New combo-10.58@131 with SMC Alcohol Tuned by Anderson Performance Maryland MAGNA Representative |
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06-24-2008, 05:55 AM
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| Dr. Nehi Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philly area
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My conversion to a Wilwood manual master cylinder is just about done; I'll post back in a few days with impressions. If you guys haven't seen it, the setup at dragracebrakes.com is a pretty nice plug-and-play one that's not hard on the wallet (compared to the powermaster buttblaster anyway...). Scott
__________________ 1987 Buick Grand National 10.22@130.9mph (1.47 60') on E85 Mods: Bronsonian ported iron heads with stock valves, 70GTQ, Comp Cams 214/214 roller, Cotton's FMIC, 95# injectors, Aeromotive A1000, FAST XFI tuned by Dale Cherry, Cotton's 3.5" downpipe, 44mm Tial gate, ATR 2.5" exhaust, 9.5" Vigilante, Eaton posi, Moser 28 spline axles. |
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06-24-2008, 02:56 PM
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| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Limerick P.A.
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TRZ makes a set up TRZ Tubular Control Arms - G-Body |
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06-24-2008, 05:06 PM
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| PA Cert. Machinist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: York PA
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Thanks for the update, I've been following this thread.... Chuck
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06-24-2008, 05:23 PM
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| Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware
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Damn, that manual brake set up is cheap... I should do that while the car is apart... I'm spending way too much money, my wife would kill me if she found some of my receipts...LMAO...
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