Need help with rear spoiler

Floyd84 · 08-25-2007, 08:23 PM

Anyone have a good pic(s) that show how the 3piece spoiler sits on the rear decklid or how it's fastened from underneath? My body guy is having a hard time with this one. This is the last piece to go on before paint starts. Thanks, Leo.

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 08:39 PM

sorry but whyis he painting the spoiler on the car...you wont, get any paint underneath it and chances are it will creep under the spoiler..I always paint them off the car.. is this a T-type that you are installing a spoiler on

Floyd84 · 08-25-2007, 08:53 PM

He'll paint it off the car. The question he has is about fitment. He gave me alot of crap about how much I paid for it and yet it required quite a bit of prep and massaging to get it to fit. He originally thought it was flush with the decklid but I showed him a ton of pics that show how it wraps itself over the lip. In his defense the directions given are crap and only if you want to use adhesive and not bolt it in. Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to bolt the end pieces to the end caps other than molding it in or using an adhesive.

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 09:05 PM

the factory one is bolted in...the end caps are also bolted in...did the spoiler come with the bolts attached...if you look under the deck lid you can see the spaces where you can reach the nuts that would hold it on...the end cap bolts are reached thru the inside of the trunk.....and yes the rear spoiler does wrap over the back of trunk lid...from the factory

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 09:07 PM

I can take pictures and measurments if you want Sunday...as I am going to do my car over

Floyd84 · 08-25-2007, 09:14 PM

I got mine from Gbodyparts and the end caps are hollow underneath. There's no bolt there or any surface to bolt into. Which is why it looks like it needs to be molded in or put on with adhesive. I would greatly appreciate any pics that can shed some light on this detail Sean.

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 09:24 PM

factory spoiler come with studs that go thru deck lid and end caps also have studs...so it sounds it needs adhesive is the rear spoiler hollow...#m make a great adhesive tape.that is designed for greater adhesion...

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 09:29 PM

assume this is the one you got as OEM are in the $400 range

3pc Grand National Rear Spoiler Set

3m # is 06386 and use the adhesion promoter 06396 works great for spoilers

Floyd84 · 08-25-2007, 11:10 PM

Yes, it is hollow with fiberglass tabs every several inches. They provide screws that have a wood screw end and a machine screw head on the other side. The endcaps are however hollow. My main gripe as well as the body guy, is the fit and finish on it. I expected there to be some filler needed because fiberglass is always a bit wavy. And there was, but the edges are horrible. They're not flat. Some have been sanded at an angle towards the hollow inner area. I've considered not putting it on, because after 30k invested, I'm not gonna compromise the look for a cheap spoiler.

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 11:16 PM

most reproduced parts have some fit and finish issues...bumper fillers are a prime example..if you want I will remove my rear spoiler and give you measurements..again i am guessing this is a t-type or NA regal deck lid

Floyd84 · 08-25-2007, 11:23 PM

It's a decklid from a N/A regal I got to replace mine that had a nice rust spot on the lip. Check out the pics of it in my other thread.

gbsean · 08-25-2007, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd84

It's a decklid from a N/A regal I got to replace mine that had a nice rust spot on the lip. Check out the pics of it in my other thread.

will take measurments in the a.m.......just remind me

Floyd84 · 08-26-2007, 06:46 PM

Hey, Sean. Where's the pics and measurements?

gbsean · 08-26-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd84

Hey, Sean. Where's the pics and measurements?

sorry completly forgot...working on my new motor...will promise to take measurements Monday night along with pictures

jhuber · 08-26-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd84

Hey, Sean. Where's the pics and measurements?

Beer clouds his memory!!!

08-25-2007, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	Need help with rear spoiler Anyone have a good pic(s) that show how the 3piece spoiler sits on the rear decklid or how it's fastened from underneath? My body guy is having a hard time with this one. This is the last piece to go on before paint starts. Thanks, Leo. __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

08-25-2007, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	sorry but whyis he painting the spoiler on the car...you wont, get any paint underneath it and chances are it will creep under the spoiler..I always paint them off the car.. is this a T-type that you are installing a spoiler on __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 08:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	He'll paint it off the car. The question he has is about fitment. He gave me alot of crap about how much I paid for it and yet it required quite a bit of prep and massaging to get it to fit. He originally thought it was flush with the decklid but I showed him a ton of pics that show how it wraps itself over the lip. In his defense the directions given are crap and only if you want to use adhesive and not bolt it in. Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to bolt the end pieces to the end caps other than molding it in or using an adhesive. __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

08-25-2007, 09:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	the factory one is bolted in...the end caps are also bolted in...did the spoiler come with the bolts attached...if you look under the deck lid you can see the spaces where you can reach the nuts that would hold it on...the end cap bolts are reached thru the inside of the trunk.....and yes the rear spoiler does wrap over the back of trunk lid...from the factory __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 09:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	I can take pictures and measurments if you want Sunday...as I am going to do my car over __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 09:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	I got mine from Gbodyparts and the end caps are hollow underneath. There's no bolt there or any surface to bolt into. Which is why it looks like it needs to be molded in or put on with adhesive. I would greatly appreciate any pics that can shed some light on this detail Sean. __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

08-25-2007, 09:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	factory spoiler come with studs that go thru deck lid and end caps also have studs...so it sounds it needs adhesive is the rear spoiler hollow...#m make a great adhesive tape.that is designed for greater adhesion... __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 09:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	assume this is the one you got as OEM are in the $400 range 3pc Grand National Rear Spoiler Set 3m # is 06386 and use the adhesion promoter 06396 works great for spoilers __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 11:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	Yes, it is hollow with fiberglass tabs every several inches. They provide screws that have a wood screw end and a machine screw head on the other side. The endcaps are however hollow. My main gripe as well as the body guy, is the fit and finish on it. I expected there to be some filler needed because fiberglass is always a bit wavy. And there was, but the edges are horrible. They're not flat. Some have been sanded at an angle towards the hollow inner area. I've considered not putting it on, because after 30k invested, I'm not gonna compromise the look for a cheap spoiler. __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

08-25-2007, 11:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
gbsean 1 of 64,000,000 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 10,214	most reproduced parts have some fit and finish issues...bumper fillers are a prime example..if you want I will remove my rear spoiler and give you measurements..again i am guessing this is a t-type or NA regal deck lid __________________ 11.599 @ 119.91 eat that Ferret Joe and JoeNational Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

08-25-2007, 11:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	It's a decklid from a N/A regal I got to replace mine that had a nice rust spot on the lip. Check out the pics of it in my other thread. __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

08-26-2007, 06:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Floyd84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ocean County New Jersey Posts: 134	Hey, Sean. Where's the pics and measurements? __________________ #1 Ashley - 1986 T-Type Silver and black hardtop, Custom silver and black leather interior, 109 block bored .030 over, Billet main caps,T&D roller rockers, Comp cam, Champion CNC ported heads and intake, Turbonetics In-car boost controller, TRW forged pistons w/coated skirts, ARP rod bolts, Poston headers,Te44, chrome 3in shorty intake, LT1 MAF, Translator Plus, Extender chip, 24 row Mease intercooler, RJC Power plate, 50lb injectors, Warbro 340 w/hotwire kit, Scanmaster, AFPR, 3in thdp w/cutout,single 3in stainless exhaust, lockup 200r4, 12in ProTorque 2800 converter, HD Eaton posi, BMR 1.5 in swaybar, Southside lowers, Hotchkis uppers, IAS shocks, 1 airbag, Kirban's front frame braces, GNX dash w/VDO guages, dual Spal fans, RJC pulleys #2 Mary Kate - 1984 T-Type Medium Blue Metallic hardtop, Light sand cloth interior, 83k original miles #3 Britney - 1986 Grand National hardtop Black, 45k original miles

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