TURBOS TURBOS TURBOS!!!

DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 · 07-17-2003, 04:54 PM

DOES ANY BODY HAVE ANY TURBOS FOR SALE ABOVE STOCK TO MATCH A ORANGE STRIPE STREET BRAWLER 3000 STAHL

J Banning · 07-17-2003, 09:30 PM

With head work, a cam, and a 3k convertor, I wouldn't go with anything smaller than a PT51.

-Banning

DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 · 07-18-2003, 08:33 AM

COTTONS IS TELLING ME A TE44 WHY WOULD A 44 BE BETTER ??????????? dunno powersix crazy

frankg · 07-18-2003, 09:51 AM

How fast do you want to go. That will answer your ?????? Frank

NOSjohnWE4 · 07-18-2003, 09:59 AM

Jack has many years experience of knowing what works and what doesn't. I'm sure he asked you questions and based upon your answers he comparatively analyzed it and came up with what he thought would be the 'ideal' combo. for you.

Just like EF Hutton, when he talks, I LISTEN.

wink headbang

TTA 656 · 07-18-2003, 01:36 PM

Most likely due to the converter. Although it is advertised as a 2800-3000 stall. I had a turbonetics stage 4 on the car with an .82 housing. And for the life of the car it would not spool till the 330' mark. I did however switch to the 51 and can tell you that the orange stripe did a decent job spooling it, even with number 3 cylinder on a vacation. Exhaust wheel is the only difference between the 44 and 51 (PTE's info). I wanted to change the exhaust housng on the turbonetics, but the USPS did such a nice job delivering it that it arrived to Jack with two slightly bent turbine fins. The cost to rebuild the turbo(although nothing was wrong with it, Jack said why not do it for piece of mind and knowing it was done right) was $450 and 4 -5 weeks. I couldn't wait that long. So I never got to try out how well the orange stripe would've spooled the old turbo with a 63 housing.

The turbo is a top end monster with the .82 housing and you'll lose some with a .63 on it($192 for the housing) Your choice on having a different shop just straighten the two blades or replace the wheel. Replacing the wheel would be a better choice since you can replace it with a stock turbine wheel and use a garret housing to spool it. The other housing costs a little more due to the differences in turbine wheels. Which turbonetics said they'd have to cut to fit.

pk548@aol.com

DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 · 08-01-2003, 05:48 PM

BUMP! schizo usa dunno

1of1547 · 08-05-2003, 10:10 PM

Jack probably recommended a CPT-44 because he doesn't deal with PT&E. He deals with Turbonetics. All of the 51's I have ever seen are made by PT&E.

J Banning · 08-05-2003, 10:49 PM

Yes the 51 is a PTE only turbo. The 44 is very similar.

I'd still go bigger if I could do it again.

-Banning.

07-17-2003, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 10 SECONDS OR BANKRUPT Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: HEMCO BITCH! Posts: 890	TURBOS TURBOS TURBOS!!! DOES ANY BODY HAVE ANY TURBOS FOR SALE ABOVE STOCK TO MATCH A ORANGE STRIPE STREET BRAWLER 3000 STAHL __________________ 87 gn New motor wiesco pistons comp cams 218 212 roller cam Steel main caps comp beehive valve springs. te45 a turbo by limit atr down pipe precision frontmount razorz alky kit !60lb injectorsWITH chip from turbo tweak. mickey thompson drag radials and other stuff my wife cant find out abought! 11/07/04 IST TIME ON TRACK 11.30 AT 118 1.61 60 FT!

07-17-2003, 09:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
J Banning Alcohaulin' Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 5,805	With head work, a cam, and a 3k convertor, I wouldn't go with anything smaller than a PT51. -Banning __________________ Banning Cohen 1986 T-Type WH1 10.62@125.45 (1.43 best 60') Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Club Director & Delaware State Rep. Sign up for the 2008 MAGNA Points Series Mods: New combo in the works -- 109 block, big turbo, Michael's TH400 w/brake

07-18-2003, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 10 SECONDS OR BANKRUPT Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: HEMCO BITCH! Posts: 890	COTTONS IS TELLING ME A TE44 WHY WOULD A 44 BE BETTER ??????????? dunno powersix crazy __________________ 87 gn New motor wiesco pistons comp cams 218 212 roller cam Steel main caps comp beehive valve springs. te45 a turbo by limit atr down pipe precision frontmount razorz alky kit !60lb injectorsWITH chip from turbo tweak. mickey thompson drag radials and other stuff my wife cant find out abought! 11/07/04 IST TIME ON TRACK 11.30 AT 118 1.61 60 FT!

07-18-2003, 09:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
frankg Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkton,MD USA Posts: 530	How fast do you want to go. That will answer your ?????? Frank __________________ 69 Camaro 82,000 miles All stock Sunday Cruiser 71 Nova 383 SBC Project 87 WE4, TA-49, 42.5inj,--11.36@118--SOLD--- 88 Monte SS--9" Moser Rear 390's, 10 point cage, 4" Cowl Hood, 406 SBC Pump Gas 10.8@124.8--SOLD-- --GARBACZ MOTORWORKS--443-907-2079 or 410-885-2838 Head Porting--Engine Rebuilding --Fully Race Ported heads $875 shipped --204-214 Cam&lifter kit $120 plus shipping MAGNA MEMBER

07-18-2003, 09:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
NOSjohnWE4 Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 633	Jack has many years experience of knowing what works and what doesn't. I'm sure he asked you questions and based upon your answers he comparatively analyzed it and came up with what he thought would be the 'ideal' combo. for you. Just like EF Hutton, when he talks, I LISTEN. wink headbang __________________ John C. LedSLED Motorsports LedSLED Racing StreetBike Shootout Bike GSXR1100 chassis NEW best time - 7.80@180mph and took 2nd place at Florida World Finals on Nov.16th 2003! Our rider - thanks to: Super Dave Stewart '87 WE4, stock: K&N filter only, 56k miles, bought from original owner. '87 T, Rosewood hardtop. TWIN Turbo SBC w/ NOS in the near future. '82 Monte Carlo, built 350 for NOS, studded, 250 cheater NOS plate, ran 12.84@105 on motor - 10 inch TCI anti-balloon/nitrous plate convertor is loose.. ran 108 on 11inch conv. *a few NOS test runs, feels like low 11's, high 10's - soon to be Twin Turbo!! 1988 GSXR1100 - sold 1995 Chevy Silverado Ext. cab 4X4 - sold

07-18-2003, 01:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
TTA 656 5 sec. slower than Shawn! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Under the hood of another Goddamn Buick! Posts: 596	Most likely due to the converter. Although it is advertised as a 2800-3000 stall. I had a turbonetics stage 4 on the car with an .82 housing. And for the life of the car it would not spool till the 330' mark. I did however switch to the 51 and can tell you that the orange stripe did a decent job spooling it, even with number 3 cylinder on a vacation. Exhaust wheel is the only difference between the 44 and 51 (PTE's info). I wanted to change the exhaust housng on the turbonetics, but the USPS did such a nice job delivering it that it arrived to Jack with two slightly bent turbine fins. The cost to rebuild the turbo(although nothing was wrong with it, Jack said why not do it for piece of mind and knowing it was done right) was $450 and 4 -5 weeks. I couldn't wait that long. So I never got to try out how well the orange stripe would've spooled the old turbo with a 63 housing. The turbo is a top end monster with the .82 housing and you'll lose some with a .63 on it($192 for the housing) Your choice on having a different shop just straighten the two blades or replace the wheel. Replacing the wheel would be a better choice since you can replace it with a stock turbine wheel and use a garret housing to spool it. The other housing costs a little more due to the differences in turbine wheels. Which turbonetics said they'd have to cut to fit. pk548@aol.com __________________ 1989 TTA #656 12.6@112mph 1.9 60' @18psi SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! 1986 WH1 SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! 1989 TTA #1240 SOLD! SOLD! SOLD! 1994 RX7 5.3L Heads, Cam 6 speed

08-01-2003, 05:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
DR VOODOO AT WORK 2 10 SECONDS OR BANKRUPT Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: HEMCO BITCH! Posts: 890	BUMP! schizo usa dunno __________________ 87 gn New motor wiesco pistons comp cams 218 212 roller cam Steel main caps comp beehive valve springs. te45 a turbo by limit atr down pipe precision frontmount razorz alky kit !60lb injectorsWITH chip from turbo tweak. mickey thompson drag radials and other stuff my wife cant find out abought! 11/07/04 IST TIME ON TRACK 11.30 AT 118 1.61 60 FT!

08-05-2003, 10:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
1of1547 Click, Click, BOOM!!! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,784	Jack probably recommended a CPT-44 because he doesn't deal with PT&E. He deals with Turbonetics. All of the 51's I have ever seen are made by PT&E. __________________ Doug Martin, aka "D-HAM" Old Reliable, 1987 WE4 "Rat Rod" Maryland MAGNA Representative Old Combo-PT54, PTE FMIC, Anderson tuned FAST, Johnson Racing Heads, APA Roller Cam, 3.5 Chinaman DP,75# injectors, Aeromotive fuel system, SMC Alky, Turbo 350, B&M 3000 converter, 275/60/15 M/T radials, broken/missing bumper fillers, etc 10.35@131 New parts and times coming soon!!!

08-05-2003, 10:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
J Banning Alcohaulin' Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 5,805	Yes the 51 is a PTE only turbo. The 44 is very similar. I'd still go bigger if I could do it again. -Banning. __________________ Banning Cohen 1986 T-Type WH1 10.62@125.45 (1.43 best 60') Mid-Atlantic Grand National Association (MAGNA) Club Director & Delaware State Rep. Sign up for the 2008 MAGNA Points Series Mods: New combo in the works -- 109 block, big turbo, Michael's TH400 w/brake

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