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| Resident Embraer Driver | I have tried the thrasher 93 and the jay carter 93 street chips and bolth chips dont spool up as fast as my stock chip. What happens is I have to turn the boost down with the aftermarket chips to keep my nice and happy 15# of boost. There is no spring presure on the waste gate with the after market chips. but with the stock chip It allows me to shorten the wastegate actuator rod so I have spring pressure on the wastegate and the stocker chip spools up much quicker and feels more powerfull at my safe and happy 15#. my wastegate actuator is new along with my Y hose witch is properlly hooked up and the boost seleniod. any Ideas?? Joe ------------------ 1986 Grand National K&N and a paperclip |
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| Cell Phone Doc Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Sevierville, TN
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| Primarilly because those aftermarket chips have more boost in them, hence you have to lengthen the rod, which, if too long will cause the slower spool up. Kind of a "nasty circle" ![]() ------------------ TurboDave & Kathy Huinker, mailto:TurboDave@turbobuicks.comTurboDave@turbobuicks.com</A> TurboD Racing,BGNRA San Diego,GSCA-5311,Turbo Buick Web Ring San Diego CA http://home.san.rr.com/buickv6/ 86 GN(MM/MAF Xlator/Extender,MM BstC Boost Command,THDP,PTE44,CAS V2FM,MSD50's,9.5"vigilante 3500) 87 GN 12.95@105.50(Stock) 84 L69 Z28
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| Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: tx
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| Why are you running so low of boost with the Thrasher? It is a low timing high boost chip. I can run 17-19 on pump gas with this chip. Not sure on the JC chip. The low timing on the Thrasher makes it feel less powerfull on the low end.
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| Moderator/Procrastinator | If the Jay Carter chip is a variable timing chip, it should pull harder all around than the Thrasher. It goes higher timing in the low end while the turbo is spooling, then backs it off to run high boost on the top. ------------------ Mike85GN - If you don't know by now, then you never will, so just quit while you're ahead. http://members.home.com/scorched62/turbobuick.html Proud member of the Manitoba Grand National Association.
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| An American American Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: East of Eden, Texas
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| Dave, can he use the BoostCommander to defeat the programmed boost? I know you can if you ignore the ecm command as we do with the ME but I forget what it can do if hooked up normally. You can bypass it when hooked up normally, can't you?
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| General Useless POS Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denville, NJ
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| What Dave said. You need to preload the flapper or it'll open too easy causing lag. The BoostC will only help if its borderline. The rough correct minimum setting should require you to pull the actuator ~1/8" to get it on the flapper. Any less and it'll prolly lag. ------------------ Jim Testa 1986 Regal T-Type Stock block, Turbomotion ported heads, PTE 210 roller cam, GNT ported intake, PTE Plenum, 70mm TB, PTE FM IC, MSD 50's, TE61, TPS-TEC, JT Chip, JT 200R4, Vigilante 2800 LU convertor, JT Boxed lower arms, working on girlde....
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