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10-06-2008, 09:10 AM
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| Ponies Are For Lil Girls.  Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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|  Rollerrockers and cam quesions... I was just curious if I think I hear ezcessive vavle train noise should I do a running adjustment. I am running T&D Roller Rockers w a Comp 206/206 roller package. I set the lash accordingly but I still dont like the sound. I know there will be some but its too loud for my tate. Another question is how lopey is a 206/206 cam? The idle seems much different than the cam I had in there (dont know what it is bc from prev owner). The vac seems to go from 15"-18".. Is that normal for this cam? My old was good at a steady 18"... Tia Psycho 6.....
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10-06-2008, 09:34 AM
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| Fuhgeddaboudit  Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| How did you set the lash and what's the preload? Also adjustable rockers are for a few thousands adj. and can't makeup for incorrect length pushrods. T
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10-06-2008, 10:03 AM
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| Ponies Are For Lil Girls. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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| I went with Comp cams suggestions (in their booklet). Cant remember off hand. I was told these pushrods would work. Again thats all relevant but these pushrods should go w this cam and rockers..It sounds like a sbc thats nds a valve adj. Is it even worth trying to do a running adj? This car has me @ my ends... Thx Ed...
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10-06-2008, 10:34 AM
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| Fuhgeddaboudit Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Again, you better check the pushrod length, preload and valvetrain geometry or all you work and money will go in the toilet. 
__________________ ED BAKER 87-T, Maplight equipped rear view mirror.. 93 PARK AVE"SUPERCHARGED" BPG#1458 My Photo Page buickperformancegroup.com "As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken 1927 | |
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10-06-2008, 10:50 AM
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| Ponies Are For Lil Girls. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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| Thanks for the help Ed.. Looks like I gotta tear her down, again. IS this cam susposed to be lopey?? The vac bouces 15-18. Thx agagain...
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10-06-2008, 11:19 AM
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| Fuhgeddaboudit Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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__________________ ED BAKER 87-T, Maplight equipped rear view mirror.. 93 PARK AVE"SUPERCHARGED" BPG#1458 My Photo Page buickperformancegroup.com "As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken 1927 | |
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10-06-2008, 11:44 AM
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| An American American  Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: East of Eden, Texas
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| It should be pretty steady vacuum wise. You cannot rely on the book, or Comp, or any vendor to tell you that the pushrods will work as there are a number of variables in the equation. Listen to Ed and check the preload.
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10-06-2008, 12:09 PM
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| Ponies Are For Lil Girls. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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| I am going to.. I will get to it this week and willpost back w my results.. Once again boys your help is always appreciated and I thank you for all the help and knowledge....
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10-06-2008, 12:52 PM
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 | I have a 210/215 roller set up....and everyone said that they rollers sound like sewing machines on steroids...well mine makes less noise than the conventional set up....if it wasnt for the exhaust I sometime wonder if it is running...holds steading 18# vacum and only sound lumpy on initial start up....
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10-06-2008, 02:46 PM
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| Ponies Are For Lil Girls. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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| Thanks Sean... WTF... This car is becomming like that Gf we love but never loves you back... I will pull the valve cover recheck everything and take it from there... By the way lucky you on that quiet set--up... Congrats on that 11 sec pass by the way..
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10-07-2008, 03:52 PM
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| Registered User  Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ontario
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| another thing to check is that the push rods are not coming in contact with the body of the rocker arm . on the newer style T&D's you'll notice that they have been notched out/deeper more in the push rod travel area than the older style .best way is to inspect rocker body and look for any signs of wear marks or signs of push rods coming in contact . I had to take a small die grinder on the older T&D's I had , and slightly work that area . I'm also using a slightly bigger push rod as well .
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10-07-2008, 09:56 PM
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| General Useless POS  Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denville, NJ
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| Mine is kinda noisy. Kinda like a sewing machine I guess. I have a 214/210 and it has a little lope, mostly when warming up. But theres still a hint warmed up
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10-08-2008, 11:28 AM
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