A few questions

lilbuster20 · 07-04-2008, 11:14 AM

Hello to all. I am new to this site and wanted to ask a few questions. Next week I might be buying a grand national. I have always liked the G-body style. And the fact that it is a V-6 with a turbo really blew my mind. I have heard that if it is not a 87, then its not worth getting. Why is that? And also, does the grand national come with posi traction? The guy is going to sell the car for $500. It needs some work and the motor needs to be rebuilt. Is it worth the investment? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks

ES · 07-04-2008, 11:37 AM

86-87 were innercooled plus were setup for better performance. (intake, turbo)

They all did not come with posi.
G80 is the code for a posi car.
A G80 alone is worth 500 plus.

lilbuster20 · 07-04-2008, 11:44 AM

How could I find out if it is a G80? If I get the VIN # and look it up, will it tell me the info I need to know?

ES · 07-04-2008, 11:46 AM

If it has not been removed, the codes will be on a list on the inside of the trunk lid.

kshrek · 07-04-2008, 04:44 PM

500???? sounds a bit fishy to me. Check the 8th character of the VIN (going from left to right) if it is a 7 than it is the intercooled engine (86-87) a 9 would indicate 84-85 "hot air" car, which are OK, but not as powerful, and harder to make go fast. The only difference between 86 and 87 was one had an uglier grille than the other, and some subtle interior trim variations. 86 was the rarer of the two years, but for whatever reason the 87 is considered "king of the hill".

turbomonte2 · 07-05-2008, 05:43 PM

Why don't you pop the hood, shoot a couple pix, & while you're at it shoot the interior & body. If the friggin thing has a motor, tranny, rear, etc you can't go too far astray...

SlowBlackCar · 07-05-2008, 06:57 PM

Take some pictures of this $500 mystery car for us, huh?

B4turbo · 07-05-2008, 10:55 PM

Post pics. It sounds like a rust bucket or a divorce.

Hissin' Buford · 07-06-2008, 09:08 AM

This is some fishy schidt...

ULYCYC · 07-06-2008, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissin' Buford

This is some fishy schidt...

Yep.. Get the vin # off the dash and run it by your local police dept.

turbomonte2 · 07-07-2008, 08:09 AM

Well, lilbuster,,,we're waiting...

lilbuster20 · 07-07-2008, 09:18 PM

Hey guys. I went to check out the car today and I think I'm going to get it. It needs some work but for the most part, it is solid. I took these pics with my phone so they might not be the best. He has original rims in the trunk. It is a 87!

Does the 87 come with posi rearend? Do you guys think its worth it. I want to bring it back to its original state.

turbomonte2 · 07-07-2008, 09:24 PM

These pics

G80 posi factory option on 87 also--not std...

OK, I see where you now have the pix attached (blank before...)

Just a Six?? · 07-08-2008, 10:05 AM

If its not stolen then Grab it!! Worth a lot more than that in parts!

turbofish38 · 07-08-2008, 12:17 PM

That car sure looks rough as a cobb. Post the VIN. Ain't nobody going to steal out from under you. But I have to ask why is the seller giving it away? Surely they know that the car will fetch more money.

07-04-2008, 11:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
lilbuster20 lilbuster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 3	A few questions Hello to all. I am new to this site and wanted to ask a few questions. Next week I might be buying a grand national. I have always liked the G-body style. And the fact that it is a V-6 with a turbo really blew my mind. I have heard that if it is not a 87, then its not worth getting. Why is that? And also, does the grand national come with posi traction? The guy is going to sell the car for $500. It needs some work and the motor needs to be rebuilt. Is it worth the investment? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks

07-04-2008, 11:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
ES Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: tx Posts: 1,452	86-87 were innercooled plus were setup for better performance. (intake, turbo) They all did not come with posi. G80 is the code for a posi car. A G80 alone is worth 500 plus. __________________ 86 GN 98 - Regal GS 69 - 442

07-04-2008, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
ES Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: tx Posts: 1,452	If it has not been removed, the codes will be on a list on the inside of the trunk lid. __________________ 86 GN 98 - Regal GS 69 - 442

07-04-2008, 04:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
kshrek where's my postcard??? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: inside of the outer banks Posts: 568	500???? sounds a bit fishy to me. Check the 8th character of the VIN (going from left to right) if it is a 7 than it is the intercooled engine (86-87) a 9 would indicate 84-85 "hot air" car, which are OK, but not as powerful, and harder to make go fast. The only difference between 86 and 87 was one had an uglier grille than the other, and some subtle interior trim variations. 86 was the rarer of the two years, but for whatever reason the 87 is considered "king of the hill". __________________ If "guns kill people", do pencils cause mis-spelled words?? (Larry the Cable Guy) 86 T-Type 72 GS 72 GS Convertible

07-05-2008, 05:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
turbomonte2 Older--but Getting Wiser Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 2,020	Why don't you pop the hood, shoot a couple pix, & while you're at it shoot the interior & body. If the friggin thing has a motor, tranny, rear, etc you can't go too far astray... __________________ Monte 87GN, TE60, 23#, 60#Injrs, 214/214 hyd roller, Mild-ported hds & int, Dutt Nk, V booster, Old-style SMC alky, Q-Boost, Remote Oil Filter/Turbo Saver, KB 3" down & test pipe w/ cut-out, TTwk93-alky, SM 2.1, 3000 stall CK 10.5" L/U, CK Stg2 tranny kit+ some hard parts, Ext trans cooler, Dual 2.5" Hookers, Frt & bk braces, Hollow 36mm frt bar + Bilsteins, Air Bags + KYBs, Hotwired Wlbro/Racetronix GSS340M(new), 255x60x15 street meats, Factory Astroroof...Just replaced as my Daily-Driver by a '00 Ford Focus. Some other stuff laying around: 51 Merc Cpe, 49 Ford/T-Bird, 83 Riviera Conv, 96 F-150 5.8L "Pig" 4x4 tow vehicle, '00 Ford Focus as "new" Daily Driver...

07-04-2008, 11:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
lilbuster20 lilbuster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 3	How could I find out if it is a G80? If I get the VIN # and look it up, will it tell me the info I need to know?

07-05-2008, 06:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
SlowBlackCar Monte Carslow Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edison, NJ Posts: 959	Take some pictures of this $500 mystery car for us, huh? __________________ Yeah, Theyre fast. I was the top of the line, out of sight out of mind so much for fortune and fame...

07-05-2008, 10:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
B4turbo Just another kinky six Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NO WHERE BUT TEXAS!!! Posts: 234	Post pics. It sounds like a rust bucket or a divorce.

07-06-2008, 09:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hissin' Buford Boost Addict? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NC Foothills Posts: 1,900	This is some fishy schidt... __________________ 86 T-Type .40 over stock bottom end with forged pistons, ARP hardware top and bottom, 205-205 Reed's, Champion irons, Precision plenum,60/ 65 lb Motrons, Progressive Alky Control, Pump and hotwire,Translator and LS-1 maf, TurboTweak chip, Magnecor wires, Champion billet fuel rails,Accufab afpr, PTE turbosaver,Champion billet a/c delete and alternator bracket, RJC billet pulleys,Limit Engineering TE45a,Cotton's front mount, 3" ssTHDP and cutout,3"single shot, CK Stage 2 w/brake and deep pan, 3200 pro torque l/u,UMI LCA's, Global West rear sway, Eaton posi,Scanmaster, AR 23 wheels, Glass bumpers front and rear(yeah yeah Grumpy I know..)Fiberglass fillers front and rear,Tbs.com mini starter, HR mounts not yet installed.. blah blah blah. Vanity:JUSTASIX

07-07-2008, 08:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
turbomonte2 Older--but Getting Wiser Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 2,020	Well, lilbuster,,,we're waiting...

07-07-2008, 09:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
lilbuster20 lilbuster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 3	What do ya think Hey guys. I went to check out the car today and I think I'm going to get it. It needs some work but for the most part, it is solid. I took these pics with my phone so they might not be the best. He has original rims in the trunk. It is a 87! Does the 87 come with posi rearend? Do you guys think its worth it. I want to bring it back to its original state. Attached Thumbnails

07-07-2008, 09:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
turbomonte2 Older--but Getting Wiser Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 2,020	These pics G80 posi factory option on 87 also--not std... OK, I see where you now have the pix attached (blank before...)

07-08-2008, 10:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
Just a Six?? I Buried Beachbum Here! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,812	If its not stolen then Grab it!! Worth a lot more than that in parts! __________________ 87 LTD. Purchased May 88 Doeskin leather, coach lites, moonroof & carpeted trunk. No Factory Hood Ornament! Special order by the VP of GM Canada! Not another like it! Lots of Go Fast goodies! 11.5 is as Fast as I go! Thats what the track told me! It's a Small World, but I wouldn't want to Paint It!!

07-08-2008, 12:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
turbofish38 Turbocharged BrunoStachel Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deltona,FL,USA Posts: 4,756	That car sure looks rough as a cobb. Post the VIN. Ain't nobody going to steal out from under you. But I have to ask why is the seller giving it away? Surely they know that the car will fetch more money. __________________ Eric Fisher OEM Parts Specialist www.gbodyparts.com 252-332-8787 e-mail me at turbofish38@hotmail.com 86 GN 11.80@115 TA49,60# Mototrons,TT chip and stock intercooler SCCA Regional Champion. Nebraska Region 1997 1986 Buick Grand National E/StreetPrepared Stay Boosted My Friends

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