not much highway power?

Brisbon · 07-29-2007, 09:05 AM

is it the gearing in our stock 87gn's or the fact i have a non locking setup, but my car (mods in sig) beats just about anything off the line but its a different story on the highway in 3rd it just doesnt pull on the highway from a go like it does on the street from a stop

and it passes cars like a bat out of hell but i raced my friend from 55 he had a 91 sentra with a basic turbo setup and that car pulled about 5 car lenths but didnt go anywhere from a stop maybe its the automatic i cant figure it out...

tony moore · 07-29-2007, 09:56 AM

does your trans shift hard? it may have a little slip at wot.you can't say something is wrong because one car pulled you. compare your's and his times and mph at the track.

SHADOWII · 07-29-2007, 10:32 AM

running a little rich at that rpm or outside your power band

Also, I believe the sentra is about 500#s lighter than you and runs at much higher rpm. which would give him an advantage w/the stick shift.It is embarassing

I was cruising along at 80 when a chevy pulled up to play, I thought it was a 350, but I found out later it was a 454. He pulled on me about the same, 5 car lengths before he hit the exit, we were at 120+.

That sentra may have just hit his power band at 55,

JDSfastGN · 07-29-2007, 11:28 AM

something isn't right. Your car should run well on the highway. They aren't gonna run as well as a similar E.T. 6 speed ls1 or cobra but they are no slouch. Most of my runs are random roll ons and id say its pretty strong

Brisbon · 07-29-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony moore

does your trans shift hard? it may have a little slip at wot.you can't say something is wrong because one car pulled you. compare your's and his times and mph at the track.

the trans is a stage 2 from ck and it shifts hard as hell, it may have been runing rich but the o2's were perfect

i dont know it just seemed like i was short a gear lol

joenational · 07-29-2007, 12:35 PM

To be honest, I am willing to say your car is fine. However, these car's are not setup for highway style racing. These cars are beasts off the line. This is where they are comfortable. Just race him again at the track, I am sure you will win there

TwoBuicks · 07-29-2007, 06:31 PM

Your car should be a sling shot on the highway, I know mine is. Sounds like maybe your exhaust is restricted, what type of exhaust system do you have? Mark

turbomonte2 · 07-29-2007, 07:05 PM

If you're racing from 55, you better get a downshift into 2nd or you'll be way too low in rpms & power--at the lower end of 3rd. From a stop, or a roll you'd likely be in second until 70 mph or so--& you just can't give away that "blast"...

chargedtt · 07-29-2007, 07:34 PM

You could be driving thru the torque converter and loosing all your HP there..

nero · 07-29-2007, 07:59 PM

Get 3.08s and be done with it (Motive I hear is ok).

:flame on:

TUFBUICK · 07-29-2007, 08:20 PM

My GrandNasty has 3:73s with a real Art Carr 9" 3600 stall non lock-up converter. At 55+ mph I manually pull that baby down into 2nd gear and your ass is dead meat. Shift it instantly into 3rd and i'm gone. That car will out pull anything. That's my favorite highway game!!!

Brisbon · 07-29-2007, 09:45 PM

well i bet it was becasue im not dropping it into 2nd and then slapping into 3rd... im just used to my z06 and this 4 gear auto things got me wanting a 6 speed real bad... im just afraid of beating it up dropping the trans like that at almost redlineing it

KevinB · 07-29-2007, 10:09 PM

Try "brake boosting" it. Basically hold the brake and gas pedals down at the same time. Spool the turbo up, then let go of the brake. Also, make sure your rpm's are in your power band.

Unfortunately, all the races around here are on the highway. I had to learn this technique after getting beat by a few Honda's on the highway

Brisbon · 07-29-2007, 11:21 PM

yeah thats what i mean lol like i cant give it a down shift or a clutch slip like a manual

thanks for the input guys im gonna give it a shot once my roller engine is broken in and set

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinB

Try "brake boosting" it. Basically hold the brake and gas pedals down at the same time. Spool the turbo up, then let go of the brake. Also, make sure your rpm's are in your power band.

Unfortunately, all the races around here are on the highway. I had to learn this technique after getting beat by a few Honda's on the highway

firebird_1252 · 07-30-2007, 01:46 AM

55 is no good.. go from a 65

07-29-2007, 09:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Brisbon Brisbon 87 GN Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little compton ri Posts: 499	not much highway power? is it the gearing in our stock 87gn's or the fact i have a non locking setup, but my car (mods in sig) beats just about anything off the line but its a different story on the highway in 3rd it just doesnt pull on the highway from a go like it does on the street from a stop and it passes cars like a bat out of hell but i raced my friend from 55 he had a 91 sentra with a basic turbo setup and that car pulled about 5 car lenths but didnt go anywhere from a stop maybe its the automatic i cant figure it out... __________________ Got an 87 GN with .40 over sealed power forged pistons, full throttle Revolution X Roller Cam Kit roller cam 210/215 .516/.516 110 L/S , 3 billet mains, ARP studs, P@P 445 heads, stainless valves, chromoly push rods, postons ceramic headers with ceramic crossover pipe, cottons performance downpipe with turbonetics external RG-45 wastegate and manual boost controller, single BB cpte66 .63 s-cover f1 wheel, mototron 60lbs injectors, 70mm doghouse/throttlebody/plate combo, Missing parts CK performance AOD transmission built for 900hp/ transbrake/overdrive w/ 3500k billet NLU converter, B&M quicksilver ratchet shifter, B&M 3qt+ trans pan, body off resto with all poly bushings, spohn tube suspension, airbags, hotchics springs, bilstein shocks. AutoPal headlamp conversion with xtreme HID h4 bi xenon conversion. Vacuum brake conversion with SSBC calipers and SS braided lines. Trick flow rear end cover with preload bolts. All parts powder coated by muah.

07-29-2007, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
tony moore old skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South carolina Posts: 3,718	does your trans shift hard? it may have a little slip at wot.you can't say something is wrong because one car pulled you. compare your's and his times and mph at the track. __________________ 86 grand national 2nd owner t tops, digital dash and few other options. bone stock no mods(yet!!) brought back from the dead. new paint and interior 85 regal t type clone, blue in and out , carb. turbo stock engine , no ecm, msd btm,holley blue fuel pump, 650 holley double pump carb. 3.73 gear with mini spool,all the gauges, stock trans and conv. slow but fun!!

07-29-2007, 10:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
SHADOWII Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: clarksville, Tn. Posts: 351	Maybe your .... running a little rich at that rpm or outside your power band Also, I believe the sentra is about 500#s lighter than you and runs at much higher rpm. which would give him an advantage w/the stick shift.It is embarassing I was cruising along at 80 when a chevy pulled up to play, I thought it was a 350, but I found out later it was a 454. He pulled on me about the same, 5 car lengths before he hit the exit, we were at 120+. That sentra may have just hit his power band at 55, __________________ 86 gn-smc(old style), 62mmtb,mease xtnd IC,rjc plate, 1/2" spacer, 3"thdpw/co,52#inj.,mod ecm,te-60, shorty big-mouth, heated 02, T+, 3.5 ls1, egr pvc & wastegt elim'd, egt mtr, mag 10mm wires, xp(old), billet fpr, rail fp gage,T-link, otc4ke, hd actuator, Q-bst,

07-29-2007, 11:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
JDSfastGN Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Galveston Tx USA Posts: 793	something isn't right. Your car should run well on the highway. They aren't gonna run as well as a similar E.T. 6 speed ls1 or cobra but they are no slouch. Most of my runs are random roll ons and id say its pretty strong __________________ 10-27-07 60 ft: 1.7 1/4: 11.255 @121.5 (best mph 124.1) 87 GN, PT61, turbotweak, .030 over, TRW pistons,, ported and polished iron heads, speed pro 204/214 cam, ATR headers, 2 1/2 exhaust, 3 ATR" downpipe, BGC intercooler, LT1 MAF, billet tranny, RJC powerplate, bilsteins, 36mm 1lE bar,62mm TB from Steve Monroe, 3400 CK 10.5, and mototron 60s , eaton posi, richmond 3.23s, Zeitronix WBO2. Dads 86 GN-ported heads, 204/214, ATR headers/exhaust, PT61, 60s, alky, 3400 9/11, ebay front mount (supporting mods...) 11.5 at 124.1 mph 24 psi.

07-29-2007, 12:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
joenational I piss excellence!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where you at? Posts: 1,721	To be honest, I am willing to say your car is fine. However, these car's are not setup for highway style racing. These cars are beasts off the line. This is where they are comfortable. Just race him again at the track, I am sure you will win there __________________ 1987 Buick Grand National,3" THDP with dumper, 3" Torque Tech exhaust with race Dynomax Ultraflo's, 60#er's, hd valve springs, RJC powerplate, xp hotwired, volt booster, ta 61 w. 63 housing, 17 row stock location, Street/Strip trans by Eric Schertz (RIP), 9.5 viglante 3000 stall L/U couple of other goodies, its nice to be fast... 11.69 @ 117.22 -- with stock unopened motor and stock heads.. Suck on that Sean 2006 JCC Rookie of the year ... Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! BPG #: 1971

07-29-2007, 06:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
TwoBuicks Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Garfield Hts. Ohio Posts: 86	Your car should be a sling shot on the highway, I know mine is. Sounds like maybe your exhaust is restricted, what type of exhaust system do you have? Mark

07-29-2007, 07:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
turbomonte2 Older--but Getting Wiser Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 2,020	If you're racing from 55, you better get a downshift into 2nd or you'll be way too low in rpms & power--at the lower end of 3rd. From a stop, or a roll you'd likely be in second until 70 mph or so--& you just can't give away that "blast"... __________________ Monte 87GN, TE60, 23#, 60#Injrs, 214/214 hyd roller, Mild-ported hds & int, Dutt Nk, V booster, Old-style SMC alky, Q-Boost, Remote Oil Filter/Turbo Saver, KB 3" down & test pipe w/ cut-out, TTwk93-alky, SM 2.1, 3000 stall CK 10.5" L/U, CK Stg2 tranny kit+ some hard parts, Ext trans cooler, Dual 2.5" Hookers, Frt & bk braces, Hollow 36mm frt bar + Bilsteins, Air Bags + KYBs, Hotwired Wlbro/Racetronix GSS340M(new), 255x60x15 street meats, Factory Astroroof...Just replaced as my Daily-Driver by a '00 Ford Focus. Some other stuff laying around: 51 Merc Cpe, 49 Ford/T-Bird, 83 Riviera Conv, 96 F-150 5.8L "Pig" 4x4 tow vehicle, '00 Ford Focus as "new" Daily Driver...

07-29-2007, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
chargedtt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Under the hood Posts: 280	You could be driving thru the torque converter and loosing all your HP there..

07-29-2007, 07:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
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07-29-2007, 08:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
TUFBUICK I BUSTED "JIMMY WHEEZE"! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 499	My GrandNasty has 3:73s with a real Art Carr 9" 3600 stall non lock-up converter. At 55+ mph I manually pull that baby down into 2nd gear and your ass is dead meat. Shift it instantly into 3rd and i'm gone. That car will out pull anything. That's my favorite highway game!!! __________________ MOON' Support the BPG....Join the club and pay your DUES Last edited by TUFBUICK : 07-29-2007 at 08:23 PM.

07-29-2007, 09:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Brisbon Brisbon 87 GN Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little compton ri Posts: 499	well i bet it was becasue im not dropping it into 2nd and then slapping into 3rd... im just used to my z06 and this 4 gear auto things got me wanting a 6 speed real bad... im just afraid of beating it up dropping the trans like that at almost redlineing it __________________ Got an 87 GN with .40 over sealed power forged pistons, full throttle Revolution X Roller Cam Kit roller cam 210/215 .516/.516 110 L/S , 3 billet mains, ARP studs, P@P 445 heads, stainless valves, chromoly push rods, postons ceramic headers with ceramic crossover pipe, cottons performance downpipe with turbonetics external RG-45 wastegate and manual boost controller, single BB cpte66 .63 s-cover f1 wheel, mototron 60lbs injectors, 70mm doghouse/throttlebody/plate combo, Missing parts CK performance AOD transmission built for 900hp/ transbrake/overdrive w/ 3500k billet NLU converter, B&M quicksilver ratchet shifter, B&M 3qt+ trans pan, body off resto with all poly bushings, spohn tube suspension, airbags, hotchics springs, bilstein shocks. AutoPal headlamp conversion with xtreme HID h4 bi xenon conversion. Vacuum brake conversion with SSBC calipers and SS braided lines. Trick flow rear end cover with preload bolts. All parts powder coated by muah.

07-29-2007, 10:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
KevinB Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 193	Try "brake boosting" it. Basically hold the brake and gas pedals down at the same time. Spool the turbo up, then let go of the brake. Also, make sure your rpm's are in your power band. Unfortunately, all the races around here are on the highway. I had to learn this technique after getting beat by a few Honda's on the highway __________________ Kevin Bolger '87 Turbo T. 9.67 @ 142 TSM trim

07-30-2007, 01:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
firebird_1252 I'm the Best! Join Date: May 2001 Location: farmingville ny Posts: 12,805	55 is no good.. go from a 65 __________________ Rob 87 GN fully loaded.. learning to walk again 03 vw GTI- wicked tuning turbo back, forged 007 diverter.. revo stage 2 coming soon 04 SC/MCSS 14.89 gone "But the day may come when you've got something to lose, and just when you think you're done paying dues And you say to yourself, dear God what Have I done? And hope its not too late 'cause tomorrow may never come."

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