Looking at a Turbo Regal.

na4now · 02-20-2007, 07:44 PM

This is my first post.

Im looking to buy a turbo Regal or a Grand National. Doesnt matter to me, ...I just want a clean car, and 400+ hp.

I found one local and looked at it today. Its a 87 Regal. The seller says it has a rebuilt engine with 6k miles on it. Has an aftermarket cam, 50# injectors, te 44 turbo, ect... He's asking $11K.

The car looks okay overall. They didnt do the best paintjob, but its in good shape. Interior is decent (orginal). I dont know much about these cars, so I dont know what Im looking at.

The car seems a little laggy. I didnt understand his reason for why...... Also, has a rear main leak. It couldnt have been sitting in the spot that it was in for long, ...and had a two inch oil puddle growing under it. He said they ALL leak. Is this really the case??

beachbum · 02-20-2007, 07:49 PM

If their is someone in your area that knows these cars well...take them with you. The guys on the board here are top notch...I'm sure one in your area would go with you. Where are you located? Congrats on deciding to get into the Buick world.

na4now · 02-20-2007, 08:01 PM

I dont know anyone to go with me. Im already aware of the condition of the car. The body work is not the best. The inside could use some carpet, and maybe some fresh upolstry. The top of the dash is cracked. And, It needs new rubber window trim/door seals.

I just want to know should the rear main seal be leaking that much? And what else should I be looking at?

Should I expect a perfect car, for that kind of money?

ES · 02-20-2007, 08:14 PM

They are prone to leak but can be fixed.
Location means alot. Up north they are higher than down south.
Seems high to me.

Nasty Wendy · 02-20-2007, 08:17 PM

"They all leak"

He is full of chit. Sounds like he filled your ears with used-car salesmanship. That doesn't mean the car isn't worth the asking price or rather the final negotiation. Where are you located?

beachbum · 02-20-2007, 08:19 PM

Now that you have given more information about the car...for $11,000 I would recommend walking away. This is just my opinion. Buy a car that is already in top notch condition and is "turn key". It is much cheaper to drive away in a finished car than sink thousands more into a fixer-upper. Just my 2 cents.

blackgn1 · 02-20-2007, 09:43 PM

Seems high to me also!! Keep looking.....

NJBuickRacer · 02-20-2007, 09:59 PM

Is the $11k in American dollars?

Gnat352 · 02-20-2007, 10:23 PM

Artie...I think he means yen

Yullose · 02-20-2007, 10:30 PM

I sold my '86 T-type last year for $8000.
The car was very clean, and capable of a low-11sec time.

For $11,000 you should be able to find a nearly perfect car.
I'd keep looking if I were you...

na4now · 02-20-2007, 10:31 PM

Im located in Louisiana. Here's the car: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/car...7-turbo-t.html

Orlando_87GN · 02-21-2007, 09:42 AM

The people that think the rear mains are supposed to leak are the ones that know little about these cars. The rear mains are pretty easy to seal up with the right technique and sealant. If the leak is that bad and the owner thinks it's normal he probably knows little about the car which probably means there are other issues that he also doesn't know about.

roller3501 · 02-21-2007, 10:40 AM

Cars are only worth what someone wants to pay. I really don't think that GN's are worth more up North than down South. I do think that buying a GN or TTA from down South has it advantages depending on how long the car has been down South and not up North on the salty highways. Trust me, keep looking and the right car you will find. I kept looking for 2 months and found mine 700 miles away, but it was well worth it. Also, when looking at a car to buy I would crawl all over it very carefully to seek any hidden damage it might have. Not to knock T-Tops, but at some time they leak.

Nasty Wendy · 02-21-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by na4now

Im located in Louisiana. Here's the car: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/car...7-turbo-t.html

I know that car. You won't find a nicer one. While leaking from the RMS is common its not right to say they ALL leak.

na4now · 02-21-2007, 12:04 PM

If I cant find a nicer one, ....then I dont want a Buick. For $11K I expect a real nice paint and interior, and something that doesnt leak all over my driveway.

02-20-2007, 07:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
na4now Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	Looking at a Turbo Regal. This is my first post. Im looking to buy a turbo Regal or a Grand National. Doesnt matter to me, ...I just want a clean car, and 400+ hp. I found one local and looked at it today. Its a 87 Regal. The seller says it has a rebuilt engine with 6k miles on it. Has an aftermarket cam, 50# injectors, te 44 turbo, ect... He's asking $11K. The car looks okay overall. They didnt do the best paintjob, but its in good shape. Interior is decent (orginal). I dont know much about these cars, so I dont know what Im looking at. The car seems a little laggy. I didnt understand his reason for why...... Also, has a rear main leak. It couldnt have been sitting in the spot that it was in for long, ...and had a two inch oil puddle growing under it. He said they ALL leak. Is this really the case??

02-20-2007, 07:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
beachbum THE MILF MAGNET Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bopping Your Mom Posts: 6,590	If their is someone in your area that knows these cars well...take them with you. The guys on the board here are top notch...I'm sure one in your area would go with you. Where are you located? Congrats on deciding to get into the Buick world. __________________ THEY CALL ME DOCTOR LOVE...I'VE GOT THE CURE THE MILFS ARE THINKING OF.

02-20-2007, 08:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
ES Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: tx Posts: 1,452	They are prone to leak but can be fixed. Location means alot. Up north they are higher than down south. Seems high to me. __________________ 86 GN 98 - Regal GS 69 - 442

02-20-2007, 08:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nasty Wendy Defender of the Universe Join Date: May 2001 Location: Waggaman, La. USA Posts: 9,921	"They all leak" He is full of chit. Sounds like he filled your ears with used-car salesmanship. That doesn't mean the car isn't worth the asking price or rather the final negotiation. Where are you located? __________________ The Turbobuicks.com FFL 2006 Champions DSR #3

02-20-2007, 08:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
beachbum THE MILF MAGNET Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bopping Your Mom Posts: 6,590	Now that you have given more information about the car...for $11,000 I would recommend walking away. This is just my opinion. Buy a car that is already in top notch condition and is "turn key". It is much cheaper to drive away in a finished car than sink thousands more into a fixer-upper. Just my 2 cents. __________________ THEY CALL ME DOCTOR LOVE...I'VE GOT THE CURE THE MILFS ARE THINKING OF.

02-20-2007, 08:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
na4now Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	I dont know anyone to go with me. Im already aware of the condition of the car. The body work is not the best. The inside could use some carpet, and maybe some fresh upolstry. The top of the dash is cracked. And, It needs new rubber window trim/door seals. I just want to know should the rear main seal be leaking that much? And what else should I be looking at? Should I expect a perfect car, for that kind of money?

02-20-2007, 09:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
blackgn1 The Dark Jedi Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winchester, TN Posts: 627	Seems high to me also!! Keep looking..... __________________ 1986 Grand National RJC Power Plate and Plenum, Accufab 70mm Throttle Body, RJC Engine Girdle with Crank Scraper, RJC Razor Pulleys, Diamond Racing Pistons, Comp Roller Cam, T&D Roller Rockers, Roll Master Timing Set, Motron 60 Fuel Injectors, Champion Intake, Ported Stock Heads, Cometic Head Gaskets, Turbo Tweak Chip, Russ Merritt Plug Wires, Walbro Fuel Pump with Hot Wire Kit, Mickey Thompson Drag Radials, Scan Master, 4" MAF Pipe, Terry Houston 3" Downpipe, Precision 6776 BB Turbo, Precision Stock Location Intercooler, Dual Nozzle ALKY Control Kit, RJC 3" Up Pipe, Power Logger, MAF Translator, LS1 Sensor 11.4 117mph 18psi Merritt Turbo Buick Performance Powerhouse Performance and Machine

02-20-2007, 09:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
NJBuickRacer I thought I was out... Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Brunswick NJ Posts: 1,286	Is the $11k in American dollars? __________________ Artie 86 GN Stock Motor 3690lb race weight through the mufflers 11.22@117.9 (with all the applicable safety equipment for ET and speeds attained, including 6pt bar and harnesses)Sold LC2 Powered hybrid project in progress

02-20-2007, 10:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gnat352 JCC RACING Join Date: May 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 4,293	Artie...I think he means yen __________________ FERRET JOE JCC RACING MEMBER #1951 87 "T" TE60,,60# injectors/TT Alky Chip,,ADJ FPR,,ADJ Wastegate,,,RJC Boost Controller,,Razor Alky,,3" SE Turbo DP,,Cotton Performance 3" Dual Exhaust,,5 angle valvjob/bowl work,,307 hotwired,,F-Body Radiator,,Casper's Dual Fans,,ATR Bar,,Comp 980's,,Powerlogger,,ScanMaster 2.1,,RJC Power Plate,,UMi Lowers,,Bilstiens in all corners,,New Springs,,Dutt Neck IC,,ART CARR 9.5 NLU Converter,,DYNOTECH HI-PRO TRANS, Nitto's....thats it for now...... 11.90 @110mph with 21PSI on pump and alky... 1.61 60ft on Nitto's...

02-20-2007, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Yullose Certified gun nut Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 1,389	I sold my '86 T-type last year for $8000. The car was very clean, and capable of a low-11sec time. For $11,000 you should be able to find a nearly perfect car. I'd keep looking if I were you... __________________ '87 GN...(SOLD Fall '07) Best ET: 10.95@122...1.54 60ft...(25psi/C16) NO Nitrous...NO Alky...On a STOCK UNOPENED LONGBLOCK...PT6776e...PTE FMIC...MSD50's...Razors Dual nozzle Alky system...Turbotweak chips...Big Mouth cold air kit...LS1 MAF...Trans+...TH400w/transbrake...10"/3000converter...100HP NOS kit .

02-20-2007, 10:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
na4now Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	Im located in Louisiana. Here's the car: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/car...7-turbo-t.html

02-21-2007, 09:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
Orlando_87GN Resident Idiot Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 10,458	The people that think the rear mains are supposed to leak are the ones that know little about these cars. The rear mains are pretty easy to seal up with the right technique and sealant. If the leak is that bad and the owner thinks it's normal he probably knows little about the car which probably means there are other issues that he also doesn't know about. __________________ Check Out MikesStuff4Sale.com to view my used parts! ------------------------------------------------ 1987 Buick Grand National Budget 4.1, 204/214 cam, TA-49 Turbo, Stockish Heads, V4, MSD50's, TH DP, JayJackson 62mm TB, Translator plus Extender powered. 3680# with pilot ------------------------------------------------ 1993 Mazda RX-7 4.1 Buick Powered 11.20 @ 128mph (2.4 60')!

02-21-2007, 10:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
roller3501 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Independence, Louisiana Posts: 249	Cars are only worth what someone wants to pay. I really don't think that GN's are worth more up North than down South. I do think that buying a GN or TTA from down South has it advantages depending on how long the car has been down South and not up North on the salty highways. Trust me, keep looking and the right car you will find. I kept looking for 2 months and found mine 700 miles away, but it was well worth it. Also, when looking at a car to buy I would crawl all over it very carefully to seek any hidden damage it might have. Not to knock T-Tops, but at some time they leak.

02-21-2007, 12:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
na4now Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	If I cant find a nicer one, ....then I dont want a Buick. For $11K I expect a real nice paint and interior, and something that doesnt leak all over my driveway.

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