champion heads

blackgn1 · 10-11-2006, 11:34 PM

Thinking about buying a set of Champion heads. I understand that the aluminum heads are a little hard on head gaskets. Are the cast iron heads a better choice? Now, what kind of performance difference is there between the cast iron and the aluminum? What increase in performance are these heads going to give? Horsepower?

Orlando_87GN · 10-12-2006, 08:58 AM

The most important question is how fast do you want to go. I have no experience with the aluminum heads but have the Champion Irons on both cars. Increased horsepower is a bunch, like 50-100hp completely depending on the rest of the car. They seem expensive, but when you add up machine work, valves, springs, retainers ect for a new set of stock heads, the Champion Irons really aren't that much. The bigger valves and the ported intake from Champion are a great combo.

john@esp · 10-12-2006, 09:17 AM

If your running a street car, stay iron. We just added Aluminum heads to a car that had our ESP CNC Race heads and the car lost hp and big torque on the dyno. I have seen 150hp with our iron heads, cam, and intake combination. The result with the aluminum heads was not what the owner was expecting.

Hope this helps you.

Qwk · 10-12-2006, 09:30 AM

Why is Champions site down?? I was trying to get more info on the Cast heads

1FASTV6 · 10-12-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwk

Why is Champions site down?? I was trying to get more info on the Cast heads

http://www.championgn1.com/

Qwk · 10-12-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 1FASTV6

http://www.championgn1.com/

Cool, Thanks.

They should check their Banner on this site, its not working.

Ttype83 · 10-12-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwk

Cool, Thanks.

They should check their Banner on this site, its not working.

Banner worked for me

Qwk · 10-12-2006, 04:55 PM

http://www.championracingheads.com/

Thats what I get when I click the banner

So anyway, back to the guys question.
Who has the Champion Cast Irons in stock? Anyone better to deal with than another? ie Package Deals??

pacecarta · 10-12-2006, 08:52 PM

http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/produ...ncylinder.html

as to getting them

why look any further
http://www.championgn1.com/contact.html

but if you have a favorite vendor heres the list
http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/vendors.html

must be old , ATR and ramchargers are listed and they are history

The Radius Kid · 10-12-2006, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwk

http://www.championracingheads.com/

Thats what I get when I click the banner

So anyway, back to the guys question.
Who has the Champion Cast Irons in stock? Anyone better to deal with than another? ie Package Deals??

Jack Cotton should [413-789-0531].

alphaenvirmgt · 10-12-2006, 10:34 PM

Check with Jack Cotton at Cotton's Performance. He will have them in stock.
Conrad Carter

Jack Cotton · 10-13-2006, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by alphaenvirmgt

Check with Jack Cotton at Cotton's Performance. He will have them in stock.
Conrad Carter

Yep, on the shelf ready to go..........

Ted A. · 10-13-2006, 05:00 AM

Might have to swap back to Irons? Maybe there were other issues with the combo and not the AL heads that slowed the car down.

krom · 10-13-2006, 08:03 AM

I like mine on a stock block.

Qwk · 10-13-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Cotton

Yep, on the shelf ready to go..........

Can you PM me a price on irons and the matching intake?
Thanks

10-11-2006, 11:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
blackgn1 The Dark Jedi Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winchester, TN Posts: 700	champion heads Thinking about buying a set of Champion heads. I understand that the aluminum heads are a little hard on head gaskets. Are the cast iron heads a better choice? Now, what kind of performance difference is there between the cast iron and the aluminum? What increase in performance are these heads going to give? Horsepower?

10-12-2006, 08:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Orlando_87GN Resident Idiot Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orlando, FL USA Posts: 11,442	The most important question is how fast do you want to go. I have no experience with the aluminum heads but have the Champion Irons on both cars. Increased horsepower is a bunch, like 50-100hp completely depending on the rest of the car. They seem expensive, but when you add up machine work, valves, springs, retainers ect for a new set of stock heads, the Champion Irons really aren't that much. The bigger valves and the ported intake from Champion are a great combo. __________________ Check Out MikesStuff4Sale.com to view my used parts! ------------------------------------------------ 1987 Buick Grand National Budget 4.1, 204/214 cam, TA-49 Turbo, Stockish Heads, V4, MSD50's, TH DP, JayJackson 62mm TB, Translator plus Extender powered. 3680# with pilot ------------------------------------------------ 1993 Mazda RX-7 4.1 Buick Powered 11.20 @ 128mph (2.4 60')!

10-12-2006, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
john@esp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: pottstown Posts: 193	If your running a street car, stay iron. We just added Aluminum heads to a car that had our ESP CNC Race heads and the car lost hp and big torque on the dyno. I have seen 150hp with our iron heads, cam, and intake combination. The result with the aluminum heads was not what the owner was expecting. Hope this helps you. __________________ ESP Twin Turbo kit www.ESPPerformance.com 2007 GSCA 10.1 @ 133 mph 2008 GSCA 10.1 @ 136 mph (tire spin) 610-970-8944

10-12-2006, 08:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
pacecarta MAGNABUICK.com .. NJ rep Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: englishtown racewaypark Posts: 3,253	http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/produ...ncylinder.html as to getting them why look any further http://www.championgn1.com/contact.html but if you have a favorite vendor heres the list http://www.championgn1.com/gn1/vendors.html must be old , ATR and ramchargers are listed and they are history __________________ paul ....central NJ... only 2 days to go ...never gonna gettr' done!! the 86gn stock shortblock 71Q and some other boltons 1.46 10.41 129.85-etown in recovery , temp bone stock engine and turbo 12.50 107 @ 18psi -atco the 87gn te44 pac duttneck 11.31 120.9 @22psi 12.14 109.19 stock turbo at 22psi chips by turbotweak.com the 86 and some other Magna GNs having some fun at Atco Raceway http://videos.streetfire.net/video/e...8c013e4547.htm 2010BPG member... #2045 Last edited by pacecarta; 10-12-2006 at 08:56 PM.

10-13-2006, 05:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ted A. Got it figured out? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxford, MI Posts: 846	Might have to swap back to Irons? Maybe there were other issues with the combo and not the AL heads that slowed the car down. __________________ 84 Regal T-type TSO/TSL car 5.42 @ 132.2 1/8th TA heads, little 88 turbo DLS Powered BIG STUFF 3 BPG #1938

10-12-2006, 09:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Qwk FN car!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 89	Why is Champions site down?? I was trying to get more info on the Cast heads

10-12-2006, 04:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Qwk FN car!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 89	http://www.championracingheads.com/ Thats what I get when I click the banner So anyway, back to the guys question. Who has the Champion Cast Irons in stock? Anyone better to deal with than another? ie Package Deals??

10-12-2006, 10:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
alphaenvirmgt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Albemarle, NC USA Posts: 225	Check with Jack Cotton at Cotton's Performance. He will have them in stock. Conrad Carter

10-13-2006, 08:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
krom 4 car Garage Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Phoenix Posts: 190	I like mine on a stock block. __________________ 87 Limited 10.74 @ 123

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