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Old 05-23-2005, 01:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cold Air Intake

Who sells the BEST cold air intake for the 87 Grand National and does it have the MAT sensor threaded hole?
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The big mouth kit is the best i have seen. Of course u can make your own for less
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pete Tompka gets my vote...Nice set up..
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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pete tomka is the best,but all fresh air systems make noise.like air rushing in not to mention turbo scream.
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I bought a tinman kit but i'm thinking about returning it. Links for these different set-ups would help AOLT That or
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Never mind I found him Pete Tomka

Big mouth

MAF for Big Mouth
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i tried running the KB ram air which works great on the street but at the track it was restricive and cost me about 3 mph
without the housing and even with the hose blowing on the filter my IAT temps were high (117) and dint come within 20 of ambient at the end of the run (78 with temps in the low 60s)

i wanted to be able to switch back and forth between the translator maf setup and stock so i built my own 4" CAI (with a shortened spare connector hose for the stock maf )

with new 4" x 9" filter it can be done for about 80bucks (the filter is 45 of that )


it doesnt have the show appeal that the heufman bigmouth or petes like on Jdodmans but I'm not looking for show , Im only after go and it had to be black .
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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For the record, I would not classify Pete Tomka's kit as show quality. It is flexable hose for God's sake....
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I agree. I want something that works great and looks good
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Show worthy enough? Also selling MAF pipes in 3", 3.5" and 4" sizes depending on what you are running for a MAF sensor.
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Show worthy enough? Also selling MAF pipes in 3", 3.5" and 4" sizes depending on what you are running for a MAF sensor.
How much for a package deal? stock turbo(soon upgrading to TE-44) and stock MAF???? Group buy??
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've been NOTHING BUT HAPPY with my Big Mouth Cold Air kit from Mark Huffman.

I like to put my scanmaster on the IAT display and watch the numbers fall when I accelerate. I usually see ambient temps relatively quickly. Its cool to be able to watch the performance of your cold air kit.
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Old 05-25-2005, 05:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Question

these cold air kits look like they would be great....until you get caught out in a rainstorm. Looks like there would be a little water intake to me. Anyone care to shed some light on this?
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have run tests with an underhood filter vs outside ram air & no filter and there wasn't enough difference in MAT temp (after the turbo, measured in the plenum) to matter....a degree or two at most per the FAST (mid 10 sec car)

99% of the heat added to the charge air is done so by the turbo and most of what is taken out is done so by the intercooler (so outside cooler air DOES matter....but only with regard to the efficiency of the IC)

these tests were done at a race track and everything was cooled to ambient (like about 90* here in AZ)....there "may" be some gains on a street car

I have a hunch all that plumbing may inhibit airflow also....I am sticking with a straight shot underhood open & big cone filter (with outside air blown on it via 4" pipe under airdam)

for those running alky, there is absolutely no reason to worry about IAT ahead of the turbo
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