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Old 01-19-2005, 11:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Best stock location intercooler?

I know this has been asked before, but I want the newest info. I want one without having to hack or grind anything! I know most people say a front mount is better, but I can't see how you wouldn't get a little lag with FM. I like the feel of the stock, almost instant spool time. What are you guys running, and how much did you pay. $$ is somewhat important, but when it comes down to it I would pay more for the best. I want to run about #22 of boost. Once I get my engine rebuilt, that is. We will just have to see how long this one lasts.
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Old 01-19-2005, 12:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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MPE stuff is nice. They make a monster 24 row stock location intercooler, but I think its over kill.
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Old 01-19-2005, 01:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That Thunderfab stock location isn't a bad deal. Bar and plate core and 22 rows. Sweet I/C for the $
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply's guys. Not to many people responding to this one. Is that my indication to get a front mount???
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Old 01-20-2005, 06:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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FWIW & IMHO:
I can't really pass any judgement here as I have yet to buy my stock mount, but I have looked at Thunder Fab, Mease/Meese, and 1 other and I have decided that I will stick with the factory mount. I know that the front mounts are more efficient, but i really don't like the looks of the tubes, regardless whether they run on the bottom or the top.
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There is no best IC, it really depends upon your peformance level and your combination. Most are probably overkill for 75%, or more, of us.

In theory, the front mount should be the best with regard to heat soak, etc. On the other hand, for a driver, it has several potential downsides. In the end, if you are running in the 11s, you may not be able to demonstrate that you got your moneys worth. And then there are the guys that run in the 9's on old stock cores welded together with new tanks...of course, unless they run a new unit in direct comparison, we will never know what they might run with a newer unit.

I believe most of the IC claims are hype. No one will take the time, spend the money, and take the risk of running valid tests. That leaves us to determine if we really need what is being sold, or, can we spend less and go just as fast.
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I hate to say it, but I stole a good idea from a ricer. We all know the WRX's have the intercooler on top of the engine, and that they get heat soaked. Well this kid at the track was spraying nitrous on his intercooler. I thought "what a great idea." Thats what I am thinking about doing with my stock intercooler. Now thats one efficient stock intercooler. Whats do you guys think of that.
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I think that's probably very dangerous.
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I hate to say it, but I stole a good idea from a ricer. We all know the WRX's have the intercooler on top of the engine, and that they get heat soaked. Well this kid at the track was spraying nitrous on his intercooler. I thought "what a great idea." Thats what I am thinking about doing with my stock intercooler. Now thats one efficient stock intercooler. Whats do you guys think of that.
You'd get kicked off the track! CO2 is much better and won't catch on fire.
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and, if you get it too cold, you may find things cracking that you don't want to crack!
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My bad, maybe it was Co2. He had a little tube with holes drilled in it. and a bottle somewhere in the car. When he sprayed it it kinda froze up and was cold to the touch. Would Co2 be ok? Yeah, that was pretty funny. I sound like a ricer! Gimmie some NAZZ man!
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Nitrous Oxide Flammable?

This is a misconception dating back a very long time,

Nitrous oxide N2o is not a fuel, it will not burn unless fuel is mixed with it...

The chemical properties of nitrous oxide are two parts nitrogen, one part oxygen, therefore making the oxygen weight roughly around 36%. Nitrous oxide is not combustible, it is an oxidizer. This means that it provides more oxygen to the air so that things can burn. The oxygen in the molecule is not free and is not released until it reaches 565o F. Since combustion temperatures in the cylinder are far greater than this temperature, problems in breakdown never occur.
After being broken down into the nitrogen and oxygen molecules separately, the oxygen is free to combust, while the nitrogen is used to reduce temperature drastically inside the chamber, usually up to 75o F.

But, Still, Track officials will not allow Nitrous to be sprayed on intercoolers, they think extremely dangerous... yet... I've never seen a flammable sticker on a nitrous tank

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i dont think nitrous is that flammable by itself?i had a friend who held a cigarette up to nitrous when it was being purged and it didnt do a thing.
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If you want a big core and great customer service, go with the PTE.

If you want the best bang for the buck, go with the Duttweiler neck and an alky kit. There is no stock location that can match that performance, let alone for that price. 22psi on methanol should not be a problem with moderate timing.
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Old 01-21-2005, 03:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I have heard people say that the duttweiler neck is a wate of money. Thank you for your info. Can anyone else comment on this? Maybe somone who did the duttweiler neck, and thats all. Then went out and tested it. GNVYUS, do you have the neck? Maybe you are soeaking from experience?
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