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Old 02-06-2004, 05:14 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I can't say that I've worked with any yet, (TA block) not sure I'm really comfortable with them either. Since there has been nothing but hype and little or no actual use of them, I still prefer the BMS stage 2 blocks as a platform. I know they can handle the horse power. I had considered trying an aluminum block but didn't want to be a guinie pig for that kind of money. It would be nice if we could have been given some first hand info and details of any true testing of the block in action, actually being run in a car. It just hasn't happened, have heard conflicting rumors, but thats all.
To sum it up, I know I can make 1000 to 1200 hp with a S2 block and live. If your interested in that level of performance, I know what I would suggest......
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:40 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Damn Jack, could'nt you have waited till I sold the one I have on the shelf!!!!!
I am pretty confident they will hold up, construction and casting looks as good or better than any aluminum race block I have ever seen. They are very expensive, however, they may one day be the only option as the BMS blocks are slowly being depleted. For that reason alone you have to commend T/A for stepping up to the plate.Nobody has one running yet that I know of, I am anxious to see how things work out.
If anyone wants to try it out, I know where one can be had and built to your liking!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:09 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Billy,

Give me a call at the shop asap, I think I have that block sold for you. Looks like my engine builder is going to do one for one of the boys up here.
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I must be doing something wrong. I am sure that I should have about four 8 second cars out in the shop for the money I have spent over the years.....on cars, that is. Wives are another category.
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:02 AM   #20 (permalink)
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We can fix that Steve, refer to my earlier post, 8sec. GN for sale........
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I will trade you a herd of goats for it...then you can have a real barbecue!;)
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: How much would it cost to run in the 8's

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How much money would it cost to run in the 8's. .
Back in the day when we hung out at Truppi-Klings shop I asked a similar question. Ralphs answer was:
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Re: How much would it cost to run in the 8's

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Back in the day when we hung out at Truppi-Klings shop I asked a similar question. Ralphs answer was:
"If you have to ask...You can't afford it" I'm never going to finish this car!
Wow!! That's a name from the past. I haven't seen or heard of those guys since the early 70's . They had a real mean 70 big block chevelle. They still in business?
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Wow!! That's a name from the past. I haven't seen or heard of those guys since the early 70's . They had a real mean 70 big block chevelle. They still in business?

Still around...and into roundy-round now . Ralphs son is at the helm now pretty much I think.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm finishing a few things, then plan on selling it for around 34,000 - 35,000.

One heckuva deal!
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Thumbs up LOVED THAT CAR!

Briggs Chevrolet * Truppi-Kling * SS/EA * LS6 Chevelle Convertible (heavy) * Driver: Ray Allen

Accomplishments :

Winner - NHRA World Finals Dallas Oct 1970

Winner - NHRA Supernationals Ontario Nov 1970

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That was flyin' 34 years ago!!

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Old 02-06-2004, 01:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Billy,

Give me a call at the shop asap, I think I have that block sold for you. Looks like my engine builder is going to do one for one of the boys up here.
thanks,
So Jack does this mean your shop will have first hand knowledge of these blocks before long? Oh yeah and thanks to you and John for bringing my car all the way down here.
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Old 02-07-2004, 11:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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8 sec. Car is scary to watch in a TR Body. I remember Delisandro's car crashing and totaling the car! Others too! That speed is truly running on the edge in a G-Body. Duttweiller put his GN's drive train in a F-Body and ran in the high 6's. I remember reading about the GNXs running over 150 mph and the rear end gets light and leaves the ground. I remember seeing a twin turbo car that cost $110K to build, all the expensive parts of course. A NHRA Legal Car of course costs a lot more money and yes the GS Nats allows car to run that are un-safe, even the TSM Class! A tube chassis, 4-link rear suspension, a legal roll bar, all the other safety stuff would be required, like a Pro-stock wing. That 8.5" Rear End will break for sure. Our local guy, Jack P.'s yellow car was built in a chassis shop and ran straight and true. Engines, that's another thing, BMS S2 Block are getting rare, that's for sure. Buddy Ingersol ran an Indy Block in his 7 sec car. I like those BMS cranks though, hoping to find one for my TA Engine, gun drilled rod journals, etc. (saw one in Pete B. old cars engine, that saw 40# of boost, no damage to the rods or crank and even the thrust side of the rod bearing, thats strength. I plan on spending about $15k on my TA Motor, another $7K on the car as mine will be fully streetable, and not a 8 sec car, with all the factory comforts working and my wife wants to grocery shop in it! He He (The Cold Weather is getting to me.) Gene PS. I'm going slow on my TA Engine so as not to be a TEST PILOT on these ENGINES.
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Old 02-07-2004, 02:07 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Thumbs up EIGHT SECOND RUNS, ANYONE?

Richie Kibler makes some of the "smoothest" 8-sec runs I've ever seen. Jack Cotton makes it "look" easy, too.

Any one have the 2 or 3 vids of Richie's runs?

One vid uses an in-car cam, giving you an "over-the-shoulder" view of a 5.57 eighth-mile run. Have instant-replayed it 20-30 times in one sitting!

I can't watch them anymore, because every time I do, our car just seems slower & slower.
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