Fiero up date

John Lindsay · 07-01-2008, 10:50 AM

I have run in to a few things with the fiero. With the JRC Head gaskets the comp. is 8.5 and with the 70MM TB and ported intake and heads I have DETONATION! starting at 7 PSI. I have no intercooler. I now have BOOST CREEP! With the puck left undone this thing will still boost 10-12 PSI so I will hog out the hole another 1/8in. thats all I have left, may be that will fix that. I put another M15 nossel now 2 running at the same time, now it bogs but if I turn the pump speed as the boost comes up it seeems to like alot of ALKY. So I just ordered a new progresive controler. Now thinking of a air to water intercooler. mid 10 sec. car?

WIKEDV6 · 07-02-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lindsay

I have run in to a few things with the fiero. With the JRC Head gaskets the comp. is 8.5 and with the 70MM TB and ported intake and heads I have DETONATION! starting at 7 PSI. I have no intercooler. I now have BOOST CREEP! With the puck left undone this thing will still boost 10-12 PSI so I will hog out the hole another 1/8in. thats all I have left, may be that will fix that. I put another M15 nossel now 2 running at the same time, now it bogs but if I turn the pump speed as the boost comes up it seeems to like alot of ALKY. So I just ordered a new progresive controler. Now thinking of a air to water intercooler. mid 10 sec. car?

Like I said earlier John, I am waiting for you get her into the 10's.

Prasad

65MalibuSS · 07-03-2008, 03:13 PM

Do you know Ryan Gick?
(I think that's his name)
I've seen him at the Buick GS Nationals a few times.
He has a silver Fiero with Buick Turbo V6 and I believe he runs low 11's.
He would be a good guy to talk to if you need any help, advice, ideas, etc.

Here are his websites:
1987 Pontiac Fiero 3800 Series II Turbocharged
Sinister Performance, LLC.

Pantera · 07-03-2008, 09:54 PM

If only my fiero was this fast!.

WIKEDV6 · 07-21-2008, 12:42 PM

Hey John, a V6 3800 turbo Fiero just went 10.90 @ 127 mph. I think it's time to raise the bar.

Prasad

volvoman · 07-24-2008, 12:37 AM

Just wondering where the limit is going to be.

John Lindsay · 07-24-2008, 05:52 PM

I have a realy nice Fiero and it will go into the low 10s now that I'm installing a water to air intercooler that is good for a 1000HP but I will need a roll bar and I don't know how NHRA will have me put one in with out taking out the rear window. My car has the Champion aluminum heads ported intake roller cam 70MM TB a turbo good to 630HP.

So I would like to see some PIC. of that 10.90 fiero and see how he did his roll bar that NHRA passed.

WIKEDV6 · 08-01-2008, 01:26 PM

Hey John, here is the link to his run

As of right now, it looks like he has no cage.

I would like to see one too. I have the engine at the shop right now for my Fiero. It's still a long way from being done. Its a 272 cui stage II, stage II headed motor with the TH425 tranny and a hybrid 80 Turbo.

MySpaceTV Videos: fieroX July 11th 2008 by X

Get her done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prasad

GNVYUS 1 · 08-01-2008, 08:44 PM

Wow, I can't believe it fits in there. Any pics of it installed etc??

The boost is only supposed to be 12psi with the stock actuator only so if you wanted it lower you'd of needed a wastegate etc.

7psi and shouldn't be a problem on 93 oct and no intercooler. Sounds like you might have a phantom knock issue or a super lean fuel tip in you need to fatten up.

What are you using to tune?

I have a buddy who'll probably talk himself into doing this swap, it's a total sleeper.

John Lindsay · 08-28-2008, 12:14 PM

I have a translater + and I took alot more timming out and seems fine I then turned up the boost but I have some knok but not too bad 14-17 count but using alot of alky.

WIKEDV6 · 08-28-2008, 12:18 PM

Come on John, I check this board every day to see an update from you and a 10 sec time slip.

Prasad

John Lindsay · 08-28-2008, 02:44 PM

Hay I just got done with a 76 TR7 S/C 383 5 speed I had for over 22 years and money dose not come from my teacher income it comes from side jobs when I have the time. so it may take a some time. I can't feed all the cars I have at the same time. I pick one work on it a little then another.

volvoman · 08-28-2008, 02:54 PM

Dump all the projects and have one car and a driver.

That might take you a bit to do. Also he has been working on our dads car heavy for the last 2 yrs or more, lost count.

John Lindsay · 08-28-2008, 05:02 PM

Yes I'm selling the TR7 and keeping the Vette and fiero and selling the CBX . The vette will be the last car I will do and it will be in the 8s for a street car. it mite even take ten years but that dose not bother me. The longer I take the cheeper the parts.

volvoman · 08-28-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lindsay

Yes I'm selling the TR7 and keeping the Vette and fiero and selling the CBX . The vette will be the last car I will do and it will be in the 8s for a street car. it mite even take ten years but that dose not bother me. The longer I take the cheeper the parts.

I love those rims.. polish those out and clear coat them, it would look sweet!

07-01-2008, 10:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
John Lindsay Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 207	Fiero up date I have run in to a few things with the fiero. With the JRC Head gaskets the comp. is 8.5 and with the 70MM TB and ported intake and heads I have DETONATION! starting at 7 PSI. I have no intercooler. I now have BOOST CREEP! With the puck left undone this thing will still boost 10-12 PSI so I will hog out the hole another 1/8in. thats all I have left, may be that will fix that. I put another M15 nossel now 2 running at the same time, now it bogs but if I turn the pump speed as the boost comes up it seeems to like alot of ALKY. So I just ordered a new progresive controler. Now thinking of a air to water intercooler. mid 10 sec. car? __________________ John Lindsay Boise, Idaho Turbo Buick 71 240Z Best ET 10.17 with a 1.40 60' Best MPH 133 SOLDTurbo 3.8 Fiero project,12.00 at 120 MPH on street tires. New project, turbo BB 77 Vette http://www.geocities.com/z_sleeper/8...BOBUICKV6.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhG8RzKFGA TURBO V8 DATSUN

07-03-2008, 03:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
65MalibuSS Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 43	Do you know Ryan Gick? (I think that's his name) I've seen him at the Buick GS Nationals a few times. He has a silver Fiero with Buick Turbo V6 and I believe he runs low 11's. He would be a good guy to talk to if you need any help, advice, ideas, etc. Here are his websites: 1987 Pontiac Fiero 3800 Series II Turbocharged Sinister Performance, LLC. __________________ Black 96 Impala SS, Turbo Buick V6, 2004r, TE-61, THDP, PTE intercooler, 50 lb injectors, 3915 lbs, 3.73 gears, 3000 stall non lu tc, 11.9 @ 109 Last edited by 65MalibuSS : 07-03-2008 at 03:21 PM.

07-03-2008, 09:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pantera Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Springs.CO Posts: 4	If only my fiero was this fast!. __________________ 84 Fiero 2M4(project) 96 Camaro 3.8V6(Sure its not a GN but its close enough)

07-21-2008, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
WIKEDV6 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Elburn, IL USA Posts: 95	Hey John, a V6 3800 turbo Fiero just went 10.90 @ 127 mph. I think it's time to raise the bar. Prasad __________________ 1987 GN (Stage II in Process) 1987 SBC Twin Turbo Trans Am 1992 GMC Typhoon 1965 Mustang fast back 1993 40th Anniversary Vette 1984 Fiero SBC 1986 Fiero ( Stage II conversion in Process) 1936 Auburn kit (GN powertrain conversion in process) 2000 Escalade (Tow vehicle) Other cars; AMG 500SEC Mercedes,Jaguar XJR,XJ6 & XJ6.

07-24-2008, 12:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
volvoman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 375	which tranny? Just wondering where the limit is going to be. __________________ 87 Buick GN motor and trans in a 242 Volvo. 13.4 @ 103 (old time with old mods) Mods Postons 202 cam ,TE-62, 3" dp and 3 1/2 exhaust all the way back. p plate , 009s,adj billit top fpr,. Pts shift kit and preasure reg. New TRanny! Ford 8.8 (3.27:1) 11" drums and Powertrax no-slip locker ,Lt1 MAF and Translator + & extender chip see pictures here:

07-24-2008, 05:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
John Lindsay Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 207	I have a realy nice Fiero and it will go into the low 10s now that I'm installing a water to air intercooler that is good for a 1000HP but I will need a roll bar and I don't know how NHRA will have me put one in with out taking out the rear window. My car has the Champion aluminum heads ported intake roller cam 70MM TB a turbo good to 630HP. So I would like to see some PIC. of that 10.90 fiero and see how he did his roll bar that NHRA passed. __________________ John Lindsay Boise, Idaho Turbo Buick 71 240Z Best ET 10.17 with a 1.40 60' Best MPH 133 SOLDTurbo 3.8 Fiero project,12.00 at 120 MPH on street tires. New project, turbo BB 77 Vette http://www.geocities.com/z_sleeper/8...BOBUICKV6.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhG8RzKFGA TURBO V8 DATSUN Last edited by John Lindsay : 07-24-2008 at 05:57 PM.

08-01-2008, 01:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
WIKEDV6 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Elburn, IL USA Posts: 95	Hey John, here is the link to his run As of right now, it looks like he has no cage. I would like to see one too. I have the engine at the shop right now for my Fiero. It's still a long way from being done. Its a 272 cui stage II, stage II headed motor with the TH425 tranny and a hybrid 80 Turbo. MySpaceTV Videos: fieroX July 11th 2008 by X Get her done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prasad __________________ 1987 GN (Stage II in Process) 1987 SBC Twin Turbo Trans Am 1992 GMC Typhoon 1965 Mustang fast back 1993 40th Anniversary Vette 1984 Fiero SBC 1986 Fiero ( Stage II conversion in Process) 1936 Auburn kit (GN powertrain conversion in process) 2000 Escalade (Tow vehicle) Other cars; AMG 500SEC Mercedes,Jaguar XJR,XJ6 & XJ6. Last edited by WIKEDV6 : 08-01-2008 at 01:29 PM.

08-01-2008, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
GNVYUS 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IL Posts: 847	Wow, I can't believe it fits in there. Any pics of it installed etc?? The boost is only supposed to be 12psi with the stock actuator only so if you wanted it lower you'd of needed a wastegate etc. 7psi and shouldn't be a problem on 93 oct and no intercooler. Sounds like you might have a phantom knock issue or a super lean fuel tip in you need to fatten up. What are you using to tune? I have a buddy who'll probably talk himself into doing this swap, it's a total sleeper. __________________ Mike 87GN T-Top down 423lbs. Rebuild #2, BLK/BL Paint w/Custom Metal Flares, VPE Stg 3 Heads, 210/215 Roller Cam, TA49, V2 w/Blitz Blow Off, Billet Drum/Input, PI 3400 5disc, T Brake, Inland 3.5" DS, KB Plenum/70mm TB, Razor's Post Turbo Alky Kit, Devils Pre Turbo Alky Kit, 60lb Inj, Denso 280 Pump,-8/-6 SS Fuel Lines, MBC, Pwr Plt, PTE Oil Relocator, Preluber, Z06 Maf, Translator, Volt Master, Poston Headers, THSS 3.5" DP/Test Pipe, SS 2.5" Y Pipe w/No Muffs, PST 2" Drop, Poly Bushings, Boxed Upper/Lower Arms, QA1 Shocks, Vacuum Converted, Aerospace 11" Brakes w/SS lines, Alum Drums, Polished Autodrags 15x8/15x10, Nitto 555R 275/60's

08-28-2008, 12:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
John Lindsay Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 207	I have a translater + and I took alot more timming out and seems fine I then turned up the boost but I have some knok but not too bad 14-17 count but using alot of alky. __________________ John Lindsay Boise, Idaho Turbo Buick 71 240Z Best ET 10.17 with a 1.40 60' Best MPH 133 SOLDTurbo 3.8 Fiero project,12.00 at 120 MPH on street tires. New project, turbo BB 77 Vette http://www.geocities.com/z_sleeper/8...BOBUICKV6.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhG8RzKFGA TURBO V8 DATSUN

08-28-2008, 12:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
WIKEDV6 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Elburn, IL USA Posts: 95	Come on John, I check this board every day to see an update from you and a 10 sec time slip. Prasad __________________ 1987 GN (Stage II in Process) 1987 SBC Twin Turbo Trans Am 1992 GMC Typhoon 1965 Mustang fast back 1993 40th Anniversary Vette 1984 Fiero SBC 1986 Fiero ( Stage II conversion in Process) 1936 Auburn kit (GN powertrain conversion in process) 2000 Escalade (Tow vehicle) Other cars; AMG 500SEC Mercedes,Jaguar XJR,XJ6 & XJ6.

08-28-2008, 02:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
John Lindsay Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 207	Hay I just got done with a 76 TR7 S/C 383 5 speed I had for over 22 years and money dose not come from my teacher income it comes from side jobs when I have the time. so it may take a some time. I can't feed all the cars I have at the same time. I pick one work on it a little then another. __________________ John Lindsay Boise, Idaho Turbo Buick 71 240Z Best ET 10.17 with a 1.40 60' Best MPH 133 SOLDTurbo 3.8 Fiero project,12.00 at 120 MPH on street tires. New project, turbo BB 77 Vette http://www.geocities.com/z_sleeper/8...BOBUICKV6.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhG8RzKFGA TURBO V8 DATSUN

08-28-2008, 02:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
volvoman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 375	:) Dump all the projects and have one car and a driver. That might take you a bit to do. Also he has been working on our dads car heavy for the last 2 yrs or more, lost count. __________________ 87 Buick GN motor and trans in a 242 Volvo. 13.4 @ 103 (old time with old mods) Mods Postons 202 cam ,TE-62, 3" dp and 3 1/2 exhaust all the way back. p plate , 009s,adj billit top fpr,. Pts shift kit and preasure reg. New TRanny! Ford 8.8 (3.27:1) 11" drums and Powertrax no-slip locker ,Lt1 MAF and Translator + & extender chip see pictures here:

08-28-2008, 05:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
John Lindsay Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 207	Yes I'm selling the TR7 and keeping the Vette and fiero and selling the CBX . The vette will be the last car I will do and it will be in the 8s for a street car. it mite even take ten years but that dose not bother me. The longer I take the cheeper the parts. Attached Thumbnails __________________ John Lindsay Boise, Idaho Turbo Buick 71 240Z Best ET 10.17 with a 1.40 60' Best MPH 133 SOLDTurbo 3.8 Fiero project,12.00 at 120 MPH on street tires. New project, turbo BB 77 Vette http://www.geocities.com/z_sleeper/8...BOBUICKV6.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uhG8RzKFGA TURBO V8 DATSUN Last edited by John Lindsay : 08-28-2008 at 05:17 PM. Reason: pic.

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