thinking about giving up on a swap and just buying another GN

[BoostedThrills]

getting tired of looking for a descent rust free 70's firebird trans am to swap my engine into

been thinking about giving up on the idea and just buying another GN

I had a GN but sold it because I didn't like the brakes or the handling but now I have my eagle talon that handles and brakes great as well as getting good MPG for driving to work

I don't know what to do I guess I'm just tired of searching and I think it would end up being a big pain in the a$$ to do the swap and then there is the money that the swap would cost

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87 Gn drivetrain waiting for a home

searching for 70 to 73 firebird or trans am

92 Talon TSI 12 second awd car goes in the snow

Don't give up yet !!! Try looking for something else. Here are a few examples that you could probably find cheap - Fox bodied Mustang, Nova, S-10, RX-7, 240, 260, 280-Z. I can tell you what is available here locally and you could search E-Bay for what is available in your area.

Mustang - They are CHEAP and there are lot's of em. Plenty of aftermarket parts that you can pick up used. They have good rear ends with a wide array of gear ratios that can be bought cheap. All around good choice IMO.

Nova - If you find a later model like a 75-77 you could get it fairly cheap. I think they come with 8.5 rear ends (But not sure.)so you could get a GM posi and a set of 3.42's or 3.73's from someone on one of the GN sites, and best of all who in the heck wants to steal that year Nova !? Plus cheap insurance. Woo-Hoo !!!

S-10- They can be bought right but plus there is a guy on here doing an S-10 swap and he has stated that he would help with tech info as I have a freind that will be doing one soon. The only down side that I can think of is the puney 7.5 rear. I would think that would have to be replaced when you start putting serious power to it. On the flip side I have two freinds that have N20 powered small block in theirs (One is a P/U and one is a S-10 Blazer). The P/U runs 11-teens at 120-mph plus and the other is a mid 11 sec ride. They have been beating on them of a couple of years each with no breakage. Now they will probably break something and it will be my fault. Haha.

RX-7's and the 240-280's - They can be bought for a decent price and there are some guys on here with a HEAP of info on those swaps. From what I have been reading and from looking at their sites they really know their stuff too. That always helps.

Well there are a couple of options for you to contemplate, but don't give up as you will most likely be kicking yourself later. It sounds like you are getting the "Impatient Working Stiff Blues". I have been there myself and sometimes I walk out into the garage and get them again when I realize that 2 of my cars are down at one time. On the flip side my girl is the one that drove over the crank in my GN so that isn't really my fault. Hehe. I wonder if anyone needs a two piece crank over in the "Parts For Sale" BB? Haha. Take care and for goodness sakes, keep the faith and don't sell.

Jim C.

[Scottie-GNZ]

I agree with Jim. Don't give up yet!

Look for something else and set a goal of 3000lbs. You will be shocked! at the performance of this drivetrain in a lighter car. Definitely worth the wait.

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[motorhead]

Just don't waste the swap on a '72 Toyota Celica... Who'd want to do that swap?

(j/k Paul)

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Originally posted by myclone
I see you have ODed on retardacylin today. Want me to call an ambulance?

[BoostedThrills]

I don't know about the 3000 # limit

I'm still thinking about an f-body 2nd 3rd or even a 4th gen


I think the main reason I'm getting discouraged is because I have a lot of money wrapped up in Turbo Buick parts and I haven't gotten to enjoy it

like I said before the 87 GN that I had was the cheapest car I could find so I spent most of the time fixing it and very little time driving it

and now in my mind this swap idea is also going to cost a lot of money and be a pain in the ass and I'll have to go another yr without enjoying the investment in parts

so i thought I would just buy another GN put my engine in and finally enjoy it


for the time being I'm looking for a firebird and I'm checking out prices on GN's

so it all depends on if I find something I like

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87 Gn drivetrain waiting for a home

searching for 70 to 73 firebird or trans am

92 Talon TSI 12 second awd car goes in the snow

Hey "Thrills" I just aquired a 68 2-door Dart today for a whopping $300.00. It needs floorpans but other than that it would be a great candidate for a TR swap and think about the "Sleeper" image. Woo-Hoo !!! If you are interested in it I would be glad to pass it on to you and it can sit in the garage until you are ready to pick it up if ya like. I have the original bill of sale that I would pass on to you so that you can see there is no mark-up. If you are interested let me know. I needs some paint and minor stuff but a swap like that would remind me of the November 2002 issue of Car Craft. There is a feature on a 65 Skylark that is just plain B-A-D !!! So let me know. Until then take care and keep the faith.
Jim C.

P.S-Hell if ya get the floor pans I'll weld em in for ya. They are $65.00 a piece for a total of $130.00.

[BoostedThrills]

Dukman, I wish you lived closer to me you sound like a hell of a guy

the brother I never had


no thanks on the duster


oh yeah I forgot to ad that it was back in early 2000 that I sold my GN so 3yrs of collecting Buick parts and not feeling the BOOST

Damn thats way too long of a wait

calling about some more pontiacs tonight or tomorrow


thanks
again Dukman

later

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87 Gn drivetrain waiting for a home

searching for 70 to 73 firebird or trans am

92 Talon TSI 12 second awd car goes in the snow

[This message has been edited by BoostedThrills (edited January 02, 2003).]

[69trgt6]

There's a Pontiac swap that I always wanted to try...'80 Sunbird with a GN motor. We had one that came with a 4 cylinder, yanked that out, put in an n/a 3.8 with all the stock stuff (since that engine came in the cars) ran that for a couple years, then yanked that out and stuffed a '64 Buick Skylark 300 cu.in V8 in. That was a pretty fun set up. We had the car down to 2500lbs, imagine that with a GN motor. Options are limitless, you already have the most expensive part of the project. If you want, I have another Spitfire frame and a GT6 body that you can have, then there'd be two out there...under 2000lbs FAST!!!

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1969 Triumph GT6 4.1 w/GN turbo set up, '99 Camaro T56 6 speed, and a Jag indepentent rear (inboard discs...NICE) Hopefully road ready by July.

[This message has been edited by 69trgt6 (edited January 02, 2003).]

Under 2000-lbs with a GN motor !? That would leave a mark..... In my undies that is!!! And to think I thought I was nuts. At least now I know there are others. For a while I fealt a lil like Brad Pitts character in the movie "12-Monkeys". 5,5,$5,000.00. Hehe.

The Donger

Hey Thrills, sorry I couldn't be of more help. Keep looking though, don't give up. You will be happy in the end.

Jim C.

[Orlando_87GN]

'80 Sunbird? Front wheel drive right? I would think that would be counter productive with a GN motor..... The GTP's are nice with a powerful Buick drivetrain but IMO are a waste for drag racing due to the FWD.

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[Quick Toy]

Originally posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe:
Just don't waste the swap on a '72 Toyota Celica... Who'd want to do that swap?

(j/k Paul)

Just a crazy guy

Paul
72 Toyota Celica with an 87 TR drive train

[This message has been edited by Quick Toy (edited January 03, 2003).]

[69trgt6]

Na, '80 Sunbirds were the last year of the rear wheel drive. That's why it was so easy to swap in the Buick V8, which BTW is exactly the same as the 3.8 with 2 more cylinders.

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[69trgt6]

Oh yeah, and the under 2000lbs car that I'm building...that's why I'm not going crazy with engine mods...atleast not right off the bat. I think that my biggest worry is going to be traction.

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1969 Triumph GT6 4.1 w/GN turbo set up, '99 Camaro T56 6 speed, and a Jag indepentent rear (inboard discs...NICE) Hopefully road ready by July.

[Scottie-GNZ]

I just posted your pics and after seeing your frame and suspension setup, traction should be no problem as long as you do not try to run anything but slicks. Strong recommendation from Day1: Make Nitto DRs be your everday street tire on the rear. Driving that car on the street with plain radials is asking for trouble unless you wire the wastegate wide open.

Like I said, if you run slicks, traction is not a problem. Where you need to focus is aerodynamics and gearing especially if the engine stock and a mild stocker is all you need. By my estimate you need less than 400rwhp to go 10.0 @ 136+. My suggestion would be to get a converter that can hold up to being locked under race condition, lock it at the line and hold on.

Cripes. I am salivating just writing this

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Scottie's GNZ
71 240Z/GN Power/Corvette IRS