'87 GN vs. BMW M5

Fast One · 10-05-2000, 07:02 AM

First, a mod list for my 128,000 mile '87 GN:

Suspension mods:
body bushings, front frame braces, rear seat braces, graphite front & rear susp. bushings,
235/60/15 BFG Radial T/A's

Power mods:
3' pipe, 3' cat w/2 1/2" stock appearing cat-back, KN filter, TA49, pump/regulator upgrade, green stripes, Bowling Green's 93 street chip, boost @ 19 lbs on 100 octane

Now, the prey:

BMW M5, '98 or '99, I think

So there I am.....it's Friday night and I'm out trolling for 'Stangs and older 'Vettes. I'm sitting at the light at Snelling Ave. & Larpenter in St. Paul, MN. I look to my right & see a guy in a 3-piece suit driving a black M5.

He's looking at my GN. We're the first two cars in line. I roll down my pass. window & he gives me the "finger twirl". I say "are you serious...you want to race??" He doesn't say anything...he just nods his head.

It's about 50 degrees out....perfect trolling weather. So I say "Ok....let's go for it when the light turns green."

The light turns & I give it everything I've got (after all, I've read 'Car & Driver'and 'Road & Track', and have "learned" that Bimmers are far superior to our barbaric U.S. autos).

Well....400 HP German V-8 be damned, I look right & he's losing ground fast----as if he wasn't really trying! I'm thinking....oh well, that was over kinda quick....did he miss a gear? (In a Bimmer??)

So, now we're on the brakes for the next red light. The M5 pulls up on the right. He gives me the race sign again.

Now, I'm thinking...hmmm...maybe he thought I jumped the light or something. Either that, or he just likes to lose. Oh, well...this time I'll give him the intersection before I launch, then he'll have no excuse. There's a nice 2 mile run before the next light.

He launches....I wait a moment & launch. I'm catching him right off the bat. So, in about a city block, I'm passing him. I'm thinking....this is so easy, I think I'll mess with him a bit. So, after I pass, I let off 'til we're even, look over…smile and wave. Then I nail it again & pass...slow down 'til we're even...smile & wave.

Can you guess what happens next?

That's right....he flips me the bird!! I just grin, floor it, pass him again...and wave... ........'bye-'bye Bimmer! Needless to say, we didn't get together & discuss the race....

P.S.: I made sure he was looking when I hit the brakes, so he could see the Buick lens in my third tail light---just in case he thought it was a Monte Carlo SS...........

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Fast One
'87 GN, mostly stock
13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct

FrankUrbinati · 10-05-2000, 08:25 AM

Nice score . Those M5's aren't weak. Lot's of H/P in a light car. As far as the yuppie go's F*** EM !

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86 G/N

ONLYA6 · 10-05-2000, 03:48 PM

Sweet Kill, those Bimmer owners are always sore losers.

Jacob

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TE-44, Red Stripes, Kenne Bell FM, ported and polished heads, balanced, blueprinted and clearanced motor, polished crank, forged rods and JE Pistons, Art Carr Trans

1quick6 · 10-06-2000, 10:25 PM

I remember the first time I raced an M3. They are pretty fast cars, as I recall. I won pretty handily, but it was the scariest moment of Buick ownership for me. Toward the end of the run, I heard a big boom and no boost. I thought I had blown the engine after only having the car a short time. I pulled over to check the damage, and to my relief, it was just a popped IC hose. Whew!

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Steve Bantz sbantz@turbobuicks.com
1987 Turbo Regal
http://www.jdmg.com/steveb

TTA89 · 10-06-2000, 10:30 PM

Hehe Where is Todd!!!!

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Mike Schoenfeld
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.95@113.16 Pump Gas
11.42@119.60 Race Gas
mailto:TTA89@Turbobuicks.comTTA89@Turbobuicks.com</A>

UNGN · 10-06-2000, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1quick6:
I pulled over to check the damage, and to my relief, it was just a popped IC hose. Whew!

Are you sure you didn't lunch your tranny? You better look again to be sure!

How was that, Mike?

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UNGN
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Fast One · 10-07-2000, 09:03 AM

Steve.....reading your post about popping the IC hose made me remember when that happened to me. I had owned my GN for only a few months. I was cruising through the Blue Ridge Mountains in West Virginia. I was headed up a steep hill, pulling about 14 lbs, when I heard a noise that I can only describe as the loudest fart I've ever heard! That was immediately followed by a huge loss of power! Scared the crap out of me! I thought something really expensive probably let go. I limped it up the rest of the hill & down the other side. I found a gas station & pulled in. Opened the hood & saw the torn IC hose. Found a suitable piece of radiator hose & clamped it on. Boy, was I relieved! While looking for that station, I had visions of towing my GN back to Minnesota! (I did replace the chunk of radiator hose with the heavy-duty IC hose from Kirban's when I got home!)

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Fast One
'87 GN, mostly stock
13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct

Dan Thompson · 10-07-2000, 11:41 AM

I just love it when they get beat. I thought you where going to say he got you at the top.

I tried to get an M5 to run on Thrusday, but we went throught about 4 lights and he would not do anything.

Good kill.

10-05-2000, 07:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fast One Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Willmar, MN. USA Posts: 7	'87 GN vs. BMW M5 First, a mod list for my 128,000 mile '87 GN: Suspension mods: body bushings, front frame braces, rear seat braces, graphite front & rear susp. bushings, 235/60/15 BFG Radial T/A's Power mods: 3' pipe, 3' cat w/2 1/2" stock appearing cat-back, KN filter, TA49, pump/regulator upgrade, green stripes, Bowling Green's 93 street chip, boost @ 19 lbs on 100 octane Now, the prey: BMW M5, '98 or '99, I think So there I am.....it's Friday night and I'm out trolling for 'Stangs and older 'Vettes. I'm sitting at the light at Snelling Ave. & Larpenter in St. Paul, MN. I look to my right & see a guy in a 3-piece suit driving a black M5. He's looking at my GN. We're the first two cars in line. I roll down my pass. window & he gives me the "finger twirl". I say "are you serious...you want to race??" He doesn't say anything...he just nods his head. It's about 50 degrees out....perfect trolling weather. So I say "Ok....let's go for it when the light turns green." The light turns & I give it everything I've got (after all, I've read 'Car & Driver'and 'Road & Track', and have "learned" that Bimmers are far superior to our barbaric U.S. autos). Well....400 HP German V-8 be damned, I look right & he's losing ground fast----as if he wasn't really trying! I'm thinking....oh well, that was over kinda quick....did he miss a gear? (In a Bimmer??) So, now we're on the brakes for the next red light. The M5 pulls up on the right. He gives me the race sign again. Now, I'm thinking...hmmm...maybe he thought I jumped the light or something. Either that, or he just likes to lose. Oh, well...this time I'll give him the intersection before I launch, then he'll have no excuse. There's a nice 2 mile run before the next light. He launches....I wait a moment & launch. I'm catching him right off the bat. So, in about a city block, I'm passing him. I'm thinking....this is so easy, I think I'll mess with him a bit. So, after I pass, I let off 'til we're even, look over…smile and wave. Then I nail it again & pass...slow down 'til we're even...smile & wave. Can you guess what happens next? That's right....he flips me the bird!! I just grin, floor it, pass him again...and wave... ........'bye-'bye Bimmer! Needless to say, we didn't get together & discuss the race.... P.S.: I made sure he was looking when I hit the brakes, so he could see the Buick lens in my third tail light---just in case he thought it was a Monte Carlo SS........... ------------------ Fast One '87 GN, mostly stock 13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct __________________ Fast One '87 GN, mostly stock 13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct

10-05-2000, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
ONLYA6 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: E. Freetown, MA Posts: 7	Sweet Kill, those Bimmer owners are always sore losers. Jacob ------------------ TE-44, Red Stripes, Kenne Bell FM, ported and polished heads, balanced, blueprinted and clearanced motor, polished crank, forged rods and JE Pistons, Art Carr Trans __________________ TE-44, Red Stripes, Kenne Bell FM, ported and polished heads, balanced, blueprinted and clearanced motor, polished crank, forged rods and JE Pistons, Art Carr Trans

10-06-2000, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
1quick6 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Waterloo, IA USA Posts: 2	I remember the first time I raced an M3. They are pretty fast cars, as I recall. I won pretty handily, but it was the scariest moment of Buick ownership for me. Toward the end of the run, I heard a big boom and no boost. I thought I had blown the engine after only having the car a short time. I pulled over to check the damage, and to my relief, it was just a popped IC hose. Whew! ------------------ -- Steve Bantz sbantz@turbobuicks.com 1987 Turbo Regal http://www.jdmg.com/steveb __________________

10-06-2000, 10:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
TTA89 I want a Z06 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Pahk the Cah Posts: 5,976	Hehe Where is Todd!!!! ------------------ Mike Schoenfeld 1989 Turbo Trans-Am 11.95@113.16 Pump Gas 11.42@119.60 Race Gas mailto:TTA89@Turbobuicks.comTTA89@Turbobuicks.com</A> __________________ -Mike I used to own fast cars

10-07-2000, 09:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Fast One Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Willmar, MN. USA Posts: 7	Steve.....reading your post about popping the IC hose made me remember when that happened to me. I had owned my GN for only a few months. I was cruising through the Blue Ridge Mountains in West Virginia. I was headed up a steep hill, pulling about 14 lbs, when I heard a noise that I can only describe as the loudest fart I've ever heard! That was immediately followed by a huge loss of power! Scared the crap out of me! I thought something really expensive probably let go. I limped it up the rest of the hill & down the other side. I found a gas station & pulled in. Opened the hood & saw the torn IC hose. Found a suitable piece of radiator hose & clamped it on. Boy, was I relieved! While looking for that station, I had visions of towing my GN back to Minnesota! (I did replace the chunk of radiator hose with the heavy-duty IC hose from Kirban's when I got home!) ------------------ Fast One '87 GN, mostly stock 13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct __________________ Fast One '87 GN, mostly stock 13.4 @ 104 w/18 lbs on 100 oct

10-05-2000, 08:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
FrankUrbinati Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Babylon New York Posts: 72	Nice score . Those M5's aren't weak. Lot's of H/P in a light car. As far as the yuppie go's F*** EM ! ------------------ 86 G/N

10-07-2000, 11:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dan Thompson Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 13	I just love it when they get beat. I thought you where going to say he got you at the top. I tried to get an M5 to run on Thrusday, but we went throught about 4 lights and he would not do anything. Good kill. __________________ 87 GN Original Owner

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