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06-30-2008, 11:55 AM
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| Deltona: Peace At Last...  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Deltona, Florida
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|  Detonation mystery licked... It was all the timing chain and cam. Back in the day when I new very little about these cars I installed all Kenne Bell internals in the engine. Going over my reading materials that came with the cam and chain I understand that the cam was a 4-degree advance grind. Adding to this the double roller timing chain and sprockets had three keys to choose. 0-degrees, 4-degrees advance, 4-degrees retard. The instructions were confusing. Kenne Bell suggested that if one has one of their cams, (which I did), they'd suggest using 0-degrees or 4-degrees advance. I played it safe and used the 0-degrees as per instructions. Bad choice! The instructions mentioned vaguely that choosing 0-degrees was actually another 4-degree advance allowing for chain stretch. Combining this with the cam grind I'm actually running 8-degrees more advance than OEM. Realizing this error I removed the chain and reset it to 4-degrees retard. Bam!! No more detonation. I set the timing to 15-degrees and I have a slight but barely audible knock only under a heavy punishable load, (pretty much like new cars when one slams on the accelerator). This is tolerable and normal.
__________________ I am also known as Freddie's Buick  The boy's back in town...with V6 turtle power...  Last edited by Freddie's Regal : 06-30-2008 at 09:17 PM. |
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06-30-2008, 03:10 PM
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| Resident Slut  Join Date: May 2001 Location: Newnan,Ga
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 | Glad to see that you got it licked  Now get going on the alky kit and have some fun 
__________________ Jim Seaton 83 T type Limited CarbedHotAir Slug  ET 14.342 @ 94.67mph 14 psi boost, 2.080 60' Comp Cams will never get another dime of my money 86 White moon roof T-type, Stock IC & Turbo, Razor Alky, 50lb inj, Hotwire & fuel pump, tt chip, 2800 stall pats TC, R.Merritt plug wires & Trans, parts by Grumpy and his 3" single shot exhuast (No goals) Wifes toys:2004 Ram 1500 Quadcab Solar Yellow(HEMI) 2006 HD 1200C Sporty 1990 Camaro V6 (Daughter's beater) 1980 C3 Vette ...another project  DSR member #6 |
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06-30-2008, 09:15 PM
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| Deltona: Peace At Last... Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Deltona, Florida
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I'll see if Eric has a beat duel-jet hanging around so I can nab the internal P/O tube. It has the perfect orifice size of .020. This P/O brass tube has a length of 2.50 inches. Coupled at the booster venturi this should cause a perfect vaporization with a consistent flow rate. This should work. The worst that could happen is no effect.  But I'm highly certain that this will work. I'll post pics of the mod only if I'm successful. I do need another tank similar to a radiator overflow container. A trip to the local bone-yard should yield me something. I need at least a 1-2 gallon capacity.
__________________ I am also known as Freddie's Buick The boy's back in town...with V6 turtle power... | |
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07-01-2008, 12:12 PM
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| Turbocharged BrunoStachel  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deltona,FL,USA
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__________________ Eric Fisher GM Parts Specialist efisher@billheard.com I brought Top Fuel racing to Isreal. And coined the phrase "Burning Down The Menorah". I invented drifting. So Toyota could conform to the Americans With Disabilties Act. I built this city with Rock and Roll. But I built this car with Dew and PopTarts. 3:10 to Yuma. 11.80 in the quarter mile. I wanted to get pierced. So I bought Prince Albert in a can. Looks like this is going to take some time. 86 GN 11.80@115 TA49,60# Mototrons,TT chip and stock intercooler SCCA Regional Champion. Nebraska Region 1997 1986 Buick Grand National E/StreetPrepared Stay Boosted My Friends | |
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07-01-2008, 09:51 PM
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| old skool  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South carolina
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| glad to see you got it worked out freddie.
__________________ 86 grand national 2nd owner t tops, digital dash and few other options. bone stock no mods(yet!!) brought back from the dead. new paint and interior 85 regal t type clone, blue in and out , carb. turbo stock engine , no ecm, msd btm,holley blue fuel pump, 650 holley double pump carb. 3.73 gear with mini spool,all the gauges, stock trans and conv. slow but fun!! |
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07-03-2008, 01:03 PM
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Cool. Can't wait to hear your results after alky . Still kickin rocks waiting to track down another carb turbo. Found a lead on 2 but one is a parts car as far as I'm concerned and the other no longer is turbo but is in good shape has floor shifter and most of the underhood turbo stuff. Supposed to find out about that one next week. Rather go carb'ed turbo that Dodge'd turbo |
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