1982 GN - missing VIN

b4black · 11-19-2004, 08:31 PM

Can anybody ID this car? The VIN's been replaced and now reads 1G4GM47A1FH403998 ('85 3.8 NA Regal). Car was located in Kansas. It has some distinguishable add-ons. It had no engine, but the body is sound enough that I doubt it would be scrapped.

I'd like to thank Bob Koch for mailing of CD of pictures of this car.

b4black · 11-19-2004, 08:36 PM

back end

b4black · 11-19-2004, 08:39 PM

wrong steering wheel

b4black · 11-19-2004, 08:42 PM

uncommon emblem on C-pillar

bob koch · 11-22-2004, 08:38 PM

To get down to the details, the whole steering column had been changed, without putting all the bolts back in. The car (to me anyway) looked like a recovered theft, or maybe a theft that had never been recovered. May have been re-vinned by thieves, or simply someone who bought it with no title or keys, and wanted to drive it. Hard to say, but if it would have had the original VIN on it still, even with no title, it would be in my backyard right now, awaiting the restoration it deserves. The guy knew what he had, so whoever bought it probably knew what they got, and didn't scrap it. A carfax on that 85 VIN might give some clues, maybe you could talk one of the guys on one of these boards into running one for free (i'd like to see it too ;) ) . There might be a name (or town) that comes up on a title search thats already on the registry. The original VIN may have already been submitted to you. I have a name and address of a former owner here but it's unlikely that they even knew it wasn't an 85. Wouldn't hurt to get in touch with them I guess. Any other ideas? I'd be willing to help with anything that comes up if I can.

bob

diver · 12-07-2004, 08:21 PM

1982 GN vin

IF you the serial number would be of help it is located several
places on the car. Inside fender behind light assembly and
in drive shaft tunnel for three.
Diver

turbofish38 · 12-08-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diver
1982 GN vin

IF you the serial number would be of help it is located several
places on the car. Inside fender behind light assembly and
in drive shaft tunnel for three.
Diver

All I have seen there are part numbers.
Where on the tunnel, on the top side(interior) or on the greasy side?
Which fender? Is it on the sheet metal or on the frame?

I have found VIN's on the frame but the body has to be lifted to read them.
Also, Bob have you pulled the drivers door trim panel off? They(GM) used to put an interior build sheet taped to the lower plastic trim panel. If the door has been apart than it is most likely long gone but weirder things have been known to happen.

b4black · 12-08-2004, 03:06 PM

Bob took these pictures some time ago. The car has been sold and is MIA.

bob koch · 12-08-2004, 11:59 PM

The door panel had been taken off already, the back seat had been pulled up, and the underhood liner was torn up, as if someone else was looking for it. I looked all over the place for possible vin's but I think they got them all but maybe that one on the frame. I should have bought it, but I hope it ends up with someone who knows what it is and is willing to make the best of it (whatever that may be). I called the phone number I found in the trunk and it was a dead number. Are there any registered that have been stolen? Maybe someone who lost their car could ID it as theirs. I would imagine the car is floating around the KC/Topeka/Lawrence area right about now, but who knows. Was I a fool not to give $300 for it? Not much special left other than a solid body.

bob

Bryan C. · 01-31-2005, 04:49 PM

In the future, I would check the VIN on the frame rail. Only problem is it is a PITA to read. Just my $.02.

bob koch · 12-05-2005, 12:01 AM

I have no updates on this particular car, but I wanted to inform Rich that I stumbled across a guy on a Mopar board that used to own an 82 GN waaaaay back in the day, think he said he sold it in 94, but still has the window sticker for it. I PM'ed him and gave him your email address and directed him to your website. He said he is going to dig up what he can and send the info to you for your registry. He said it was non turbo and that the original engine crapped out and was scrapped, replaced with another 4.1.

Just a heads up. I'm on the lookout for ya.

bob

b4black · 12-07-2005, 09:52 PM

Thanks! He e-mailed me. Hopefully he will come thru with the window sticker.

11-19-2004, 08:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	1982 GN - missing VIN Can anybody ID this car? The VIN's been replaced and now reads 1G4GM47A1FH403998 ('85 3.8 NA Regal). Car was located in Kansas. It has some distinguishable add-ons. It had no engine, but the body is sound enough that I doubt it would be scrapped. I'd like to thank Bob Koch for mailing of CD of pictures of this car. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Rich George BEFORE BLACK Website 1983 Regal T TYPE 14.21 @ 93.75 mph - Have I caught the IC cars yet??? 1982 Regal GRAND NATIONAL 1998 Regal GS and 1996 Dodge Ram TurboDiesel too! Chicagoland Chapter GSCA Last edited by b4black : 11-19-2004 at 08:34 PM.

11-19-2004, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	back end Attached Thumbnails

11-19-2004, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	wrong steering wheel Attached Thumbnails Last edited by b4black : 11-19-2004 at 08:43 PM.

11-19-2004, 08:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	uncommon emblem on C-pillar Attached Thumbnails

11-22-2004, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
bob koch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 19	To get down to the details, the whole steering column had been changed, without putting all the bolts back in. The car (to me anyway) looked like a recovered theft, or maybe a theft that had never been recovered. May have been re-vinned by thieves, or simply someone who bought it with no title or keys, and wanted to drive it. Hard to say, but if it would have had the original VIN on it still, even with no title, it would be in my backyard right now, awaiting the restoration it deserves. The guy knew what he had, so whoever bought it probably knew what they got, and didn't scrap it. A carfax on that 85 VIN might give some clues, maybe you could talk one of the guys on one of these boards into running one for free (i'd like to see it too ;) ) . There might be a name (or town) that comes up on a title search thats already on the registry. The original VIN may have already been submitted to you. I have a name and address of a former owner here but it's unlikely that they even knew it wasn't an 85. Wouldn't hurt to get in touch with them I guess. Any other ideas? I'd be willing to help with anything that comes up if I can. bob __________________ 87 GN TE44, 009's, 194/204 cam, usual mods

12-07-2004, 08:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
diver Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MD Posts: 19	vin 1982 GN vin IF you the serial number would be of help it is located several places on the car. Inside fender behind light assembly and in drive shaft tunnel for three. Diver

12-08-2004, 03:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	Bob took these pictures some time ago. The car has been sold and is MIA.

12-08-2004, 11:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
bob koch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 19	The door panel had been taken off already, the back seat had been pulled up, and the underhood liner was torn up, as if someone else was looking for it. I looked all over the place for possible vin's but I think they got them all but maybe that one on the frame. I should have bought it, but I hope it ends up with someone who knows what it is and is willing to make the best of it (whatever that may be). I called the phone number I found in the trunk and it was a dead number. Are there any registered that have been stolen? Maybe someone who lost their car could ID it as theirs. I would imagine the car is floating around the KC/Topeka/Lawrence area right about now, but who knows. Was I a fool not to give $300 for it? Not much special left other than a solid body. bob __________________ 87 GN TE44, 009's, 194/204 cam, usual mods

01-31-2005, 04:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bryan C. Full of Hot Air Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sycamore, IL Posts: 7	In the future, I would check the VIN on the frame rail. Only problem is it is a PITA to read. Just my $.02. __________________ Bryan & Donna Campbell 85 GN 87 GN Opel Gt - 462 Big Block Buick in progress Hot Air Buick Registry

12-05-2005, 12:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
bob koch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Kansas Posts: 19	I have no updates on this particular car, but I wanted to inform Rich that I stumbled across a guy on a Mopar board that used to own an 82 GN waaaaay back in the day, think he said he sold it in 94, but still has the window sticker for it. I PM'ed him and gave him your email address and directed him to your website. He said he is going to dig up what he can and send the info to you for your registry. He said it was non turbo and that the original engine crapped out and was scrapped, replaced with another 4.1. Just a heads up. I'm on the lookout for ya. bob __________________ 87 GN TE44, 009's, 194/204 cam, usual mods

12-07-2005, 09:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
b4black Carb/Turbo Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 1,581	Thanks! He e-mailed me. Hopefully he will come thru with the window sticker. __________________ Rich George BEFORE BLACK Website 1983 Regal T TYPE 14.21 @ 93.75 mph - Have I caught the IC cars yet??? 1982 Regal GRAND NATIONAL 1998 Regal GS and 1996 Dodge Ram TurboDiesel too! Chicagoland Chapter GSCA

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