TAI Class for 2008 BG Nationals - Page 3

Quiky One · 12-09-2007, 07:01 PM

Hate to be a prick, but when will the rules be finalized? I will be a last minute decision on if I can come as school is ending right around there, but a set of rules to get the car ready would be great.

My main question is will it be heads up or bracket?

Grumpy · 12-10-2007, 09:33 AM

I think something will be happening soon ... these new 88 turbo's are HUGE

guys better hurry to get them because they may take a while to get

Razor · 12-10-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiky One

Hate to be a prick, but when will the rules be finalized? I will be a last minute decision on if I can come as school is ending right around there, but a set of rules to get the car ready would be great.

My main question is will it be heads up or bracket?

If your going to be racing... ya need to be vocal about it. The class is being made for those that WILL race at BG.. not keyboard racers.

HTH

Julio

GNVYUS 1 · 12-10-2007, 11:43 PM

I'll be keyboard racing if the limit is a 76 turbo, heads up and that's it.

Us small but mighty turbo guys will be getting lunch after the first round for everyone.

I still vote for a bracketing system set up around the turbo's size. Then let everyone play,

EX
71mm +
T66-T70 ( 70gtq might need to get bumped up )
Stock to TE63

Sort of like Boxing with the different weight classes all under the same sanctioning body of rules.

Grumpy · 12-11-2007, 03:30 AM

I vote for a 67 limit on turbos ... keep a difference from TSM

this is suppose to be a street class

gbsean · 12-11-2007, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor

If your going to be racing... ya need to be vocal about it. The class is being made for those that WILL race at BG.. not keyboard racers.

HTH

Julio

or those who want to use the same rules at another event......

Razor · 12-11-2007, 07:44 AM

Grumpy showed you can run 9.9 with a 67. Everyone is bleeding over a 76.. yet there has not been a single fast car with a 76 and a 109 block I have ever seen. Its like be scared of the lochness monster...yet nobody has ever seen it. I've seen plenty of 12 second 70+mm turbo 109 street cars..

No way your going to make different alky classes.. last year there were 2 cars. The year before we had 8-9 show up. Get real..

run what ya brung...

We need car count if its going to be a class.. without that.. there is "no class"

Jack Cotton · 12-11-2007, 07:54 AM

Well said Julio. If we go with one class qualifying together, take the top 8 and put them in a heads up class, pro tree, then take the rest and make it a brackett, pro tree, everyone in that class has an even and fair chance to run to the finals...

The bracket class does not have to worry about what turbo the guy in the lane beside you has, just have to go out, cut a good lite and beat his opponent to the finish line without breaking out... sounds simple and exciting. If you like racing... and that is the reason we go to a racing event, what better way than to get experience. You don't have to beat the heck out of your car to win a bracket race, just need to race smart and run your number. If anyone wants racing tips, check out our new BB and I'll be happy to give tips to be a winner.. in the Racing Forums.. COTTONSPERFORMANCE.COM - Powered by vBulletin

gbsean · 12-11-2007, 08:52 AM

Jack I like that idea...with a cruise factor..to prove it is a street car

Grumpy · 12-11-2007, 01:38 PM

does this mean I have to send my new 88 back ??

GNVYUS 1 · 12-11-2007, 07:40 PM

I like Jack's idea, split it up and then let us all hammer it out.

I guess I will tell Jay to cancel my twin turbo header kit.

Quiky One · 12-11-2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor

If your going to be racing... ya need to be vocal about it. The class is being made for those that WILL race at BG.. not keyboard racers.

HTH

Julio

Which is exactly why I am not going to push for certain rules if I know I can not be there. 99% chance says I will all night it Thursday night and arrive Friday to race but then again there is always that 1% chance. I am trying to be respectful and reasonable to those that will be there. O and I am trying to stay out of the HS drama which I see every day.

blackgn1 · 12-16-2007, 02:46 PM

I'm in! Would like to see some rules soon though.

GNVYUS 1 · 12-20-2007, 10:56 PM

I've heard the new 70HPQ is making some noise, let's see who doesn't have these new turbo's around race time.

Ttype83 · 02-11-2008, 11:28 AM

Drudging up a old post, Do we have rules for this yet

I may give it a shot (No Grumpy I haven't done the valve springs yet)

12-10-2007, 09:33 AM	#32 (permalink)
Grumpy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Andover, Ma Posts: 11,023	I think something will be happening soon ... these new 88 turbo's are HUGE guys better hurry to get them because they may take a while to get __________________ Dan dont run your mouth if you cant run your car 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Time to get out! Stuff has to go !!! Otherwise I am cutting it up and throwing it away email ttastage2@yahoo.com

12-10-2007, 11:43 PM	#34 (permalink)
GNVYUS 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IL Posts: 834	I'll be keyboard racing if the limit is a 76 turbo, heads up and that's it. Us small but mighty turbo guys will be getting lunch after the first round for everyone. I still vote for a bracketing system set up around the turbo's size. Then let everyone play, EX 71mm + T66-T70 ( 70gtq might need to get bumped up ) Stock to TE63 Sort of like Boxing with the different weight classes all under the same sanctioning body of rules. __________________ Mike 87GN T-Top down 421lbs. Rebuild #2, BLK/BL Paint w/Custom Metal Flares, VPE Stg 3 Heads, 210/215 Roller Cam, TA49, V2 w/Blitz Blow Off, Billet Drum/Input, PI 3400 5disc, T Brake, Inland 3.5" DS, KB Plenum/70mm TB, Razor's Post Turbo Alky Kit, Devils Pre Turbo Alky Kit, 60lb Inj, -8/-6 SS Fuel Lines, MBC, Pwr Plt, PTE Oil Relocator, Preluber, Z06 Maf, Translator, Volt Master, Poston Headers, THSS 3.5" DP/Test Pipe, SS 2.5" Y Pipe w/No Muffs, PST 2" Drop, Poly Bushings, Boxed Upper/Lower Arms, Vacuum Converted, Aerospace 11" Brakes w/SS lines, Alum Drums, Polished Autodrags 15x8/15x10, Nitto 555R 275/60's

12-11-2007, 03:30 AM	#35 (permalink)
Grumpy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Andover, Ma Posts: 11,023	I vote for a 67 limit on turbos ... keep a difference from TSM this is suppose to be a street class __________________ Dan dont run your mouth if you cant run your car 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Time to get out! Stuff has to go !!! Otherwise I am cutting it up and throwing it away email ttastage2@yahoo.com

12-11-2007, 07:54 AM	#38 (permalink)
Jack Cotton 8 second Pumpkin Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Agawam, Ma. Posts: 418	Well said Julio. If we go with one class qualifying together, take the top 8 and put them in a heads up class, pro tree, then take the rest and make it a brackett, pro tree, everyone in that class has an even and fair chance to run to the finals... The bracket class does not have to worry about what turbo the guy in the lane beside you has, just have to go out, cut a good lite and beat his opponent to the finish line without breaking out... sounds simple and exciting. If you like racing... and that is the reason we go to a racing event, what better way than to get experience. You don't have to beat the heck out of your car to win a bracket race, just need to race smart and run your number. If anyone wants racing tips, check out our new BB and I'll be happy to give tips to be a winner.. in the Racing Forums.. COTTONSPERFORMANCE.COM - Powered by vBulletin __________________ Jack Cotton 8.90@154 old times.... www.cottonsperformance.com 413-789-0531

12-11-2007, 08:52 AM	#39 (permalink)
gbsean U.S. Citizen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Flanders, N.J. Posts: 9,801	Jack I like that idea...with a cruise factor..to prove it is a street car __________________ Best slip to date 11.769 @ 116.51 mph eat that Ferret Joe Tuning in Progress Sean Ryder Buick Performance Group Vice-Chairman www.buickperformancegroup.com see thread for Engine Specs http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/wa...tml#post680751 happy now Rich

12-09-2007, 07:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
Quiky One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 344	Hate to be a prick, but when will the rules be finalized? I will be a last minute decision on if I can come as school is ending right around there, but a set of rules to get the car ready would be great. My main question is will it be heads up or bracket?

12-11-2007, 07:44 AM	#37 (permalink)
Razor Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 881	Grumpy showed you can run 9.9 with a 67. Everyone is bleeding over a 76.. yet there has not been a single fast car with a 76 and a 109 block I have ever seen. Its like be scared of the lochness monster...yet nobody has ever seen it. I've seen plenty of 12 second 70+mm turbo 109 street cars.. No way your going to make different alky classes.. last year there were 2 cars. The year before we had 8-9 show up. Get real.. run what ya brung... We need car count if its going to be a class.. without that.. there is "no class"

12-11-2007, 01:38 PM	#40 (permalink)
Grumpy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Andover, Ma Posts: 11,023	does this mean I have to send my new 88 back ?? __________________ Dan dont run your mouth if you cant run your car 86/87 GN and 89 TTA .. tons of parts !! Time to get out! Stuff has to go !!! Otherwise I am cutting it up and throwing it away email ttastage2@yahoo.com

12-11-2007, 07:40 PM	#41 (permalink)
GNVYUS 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IL Posts: 834	I like Jack's idea, split it up and then let us all hammer it out. I guess I will tell Jay to cancel my twin turbo header kit. __________________ Mike 87GN T-Top down 421lbs. Rebuild #2, BLK/BL Paint w/Custom Metal Flares, VPE Stg 3 Heads, 210/215 Roller Cam, TA49, V2 w/Blitz Blow Off, Billet Drum/Input, PI 3400 5disc, T Brake, Inland 3.5" DS, KB Plenum/70mm TB, Razor's Post Turbo Alky Kit, Devils Pre Turbo Alky Kit, 60lb Inj, -8/-6 SS Fuel Lines, MBC, Pwr Plt, PTE Oil Relocator, Preluber, Z06 Maf, Translator, Volt Master, Poston Headers, THSS 3.5" DP/Test Pipe, SS 2.5" Y Pipe w/No Muffs, PST 2" Drop, Poly Bushings, Boxed Upper/Lower Arms, Vacuum Converted, Aerospace 11" Brakes w/SS lines, Alum Drums, Polished Autodrags 15x8/15x10, Nitto 555R 275/60's

12-16-2007, 02:46 PM	#43 (permalink)
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12-20-2007, 10:56 PM	#44 (permalink)
GNVYUS 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IL Posts: 834	I've heard the new 70HPQ is making some noise, let's see who doesn't have these new turbo's around race time. __________________ Mike 87GN T-Top down 421lbs. Rebuild #2, BLK/BL Paint w/Custom Metal Flares, VPE Stg 3 Heads, 210/215 Roller Cam, TA49, V2 w/Blitz Blow Off, Billet Drum/Input, PI 3400 5disc, T Brake, Inland 3.5" DS, KB Plenum/70mm TB, Razor's Post Turbo Alky Kit, Devils Pre Turbo Alky Kit, 60lb Inj, -8/-6 SS Fuel Lines, MBC, Pwr Plt, PTE Oil Relocator, Preluber, Z06 Maf, Translator, Volt Master, Poston Headers, THSS 3.5" DP/Test Pipe, SS 2.5" Y Pipe w/No Muffs, PST 2" Drop, Poly Bushings, Boxed Upper/Lower Arms, Vacuum Converted, Aerospace 11" Brakes w/SS lines, Alum Drums, Polished Autodrags 15x8/15x10, Nitto 555R 275/60's

02-11-2008, 11:28 AM	#45 (permalink)
Ttype83 Resident Slut Join Date: May 2001 Location: Newnan,Ga Posts: 5,286	Drudging up a old post, Do we have rules for this yet I may give it a shot (No Grumpy I haven't done the valve springs yet) __________________ Jim Seaton 83 T type Limited CarbedHotAir Slug ET 14.342 @ 94.67mph 14 psi boost, 2.080 60' Comp Cams will never get another dime of my money 86 White moon roof T-type, Stock IC & Turbo, Razor Alky, 50lb inj, Hotwire & fuel pump, tt chip, 2800 stall pats TC, R.Merritt plug wires & Trans, parts by Grumpy and his 3" single shot exhuast (No goals) Wifes toys:2004 Ram 1500 Quadcab Solar Yellow(HEMI) 2006 HD 1200C Sporty 1990 Camaro V6 (Daughter's beater) 1980 C3 Vette ...another project DSR member #6

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