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Old 03-20-2007, 01:11 PM   #76 (permalink)
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If you had read all the posts, you might understand the matter better...kinda hard to read them, I admit
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:23 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I don't run Alky so my opinion is unbiased. Bottom line is read or ASK about the warranty BEFORE you buy. Coolingmist's policy is quite clear http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=policy
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:07 PM   #78 (permalink)
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The reference to the translator was not about the removal of the lid, but more so the cutting of the harness to locate the unit i the car.

I didn't read all the guys post, I wasn't really interested in the hostile ones,

I still stand by my opinion, that if he didn't cause the unit to fail, they should have covered it, or offered to work with him before it got hostile.

and the guy should not have sent it in missing screws. that was a dick move

I may be off base and I might have a different opinion if I saw the controller


Bill,

I have read all of the posts and while I have not bought anything from Cooling Mist I think Cooling Mist has done the right thing here. The post starter (from what I gathered) didn't even buy the product from Cooling Mist but from a third party.

I do run alcohol injection and if I ever feel that I want a different controller I would strongly consider the Cooling Mist controller.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:00 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Bill , sometimes it is how you read a post that makes all the difference...I just PM Dave at coolingmist about this very subject..he got back to me right away..I had always read his responses and being defensive or superior and his last response has changed my mind.. and after reading some of Dave's othe replies in other threads again..I feel I have judged him wrong..if my unit ever fails he will probally be getting a call from me...Dave keep up the good work
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:23 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Coolingmist,

Sorry, but did you even spend more than 5 seconds looking at the controller? The fuse holder and original fuse were still intact on the controller!!!! That proves to me that you didnt even try to diagnose what was really wrong with it. I opened the case in my garage after it failed and a screw/nut or whatever it was flew out and I couldn't find it. Oh well I thought, it was loose before I opened it. That shows you why there are missing screws/nuts...b/c they were rattling around in the enclosure when I opened it.

More Boost,

Thank you for seeing my point. After all this "bickering" he finally says we can "working something out."

Also, I originally went through the company whom I bought it from, Greg Guster at enginerunup.com, and HE turned it over to coolingmist.

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Old 03-20-2007, 05:30 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Everyone keeps telling me about the "policy" and how I should have read it and the fact of the matter is, is that I bought the controller before this 1 year policy was even posted up.

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Old 03-20-2007, 05:37 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Everyone keeps telling me about the "policy" and how I should have read it and the fact of the matter is, is that I bought the controller before this 1 year policy was even posted up.

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Jordan,

that is not true. That policy has been on our site since day 1. Except when you bought it it say 90 days. your controller was purchased last fall when it had a 90 day warranty which as I pointed out I would have covered it had you not opened it.

lastly just so you know. you are not our customer, you are ENGINERUNUPS customer. They are not our dealer, they are another manufacturer. So in otherwords, when we denied the warranty, we denied it to them not you. Maybe that makes no difference to you, but its the way it is. We had 1 other customer that ordered a controller from Enginerunup and it was defective. This was about 2 months ago. Guess what the end result was? We shipped them a new controller because they didn't open it.

I understand why you angry, I understand your point completely. We are all human and everyone on this board would want to have it warrantied. MOST of us understand that you cant OPEN it, and if you do its VOID.

Please dont tell people that the warranty was not posted on our site. I cant vouch for GREG if they posted it or not, its not my call. But for us, we had it posted from day 1.

I also want to clarify that the company you purchased this from did nothing wrong IMO. They had a customer that had a problem with a controller and they sent it to us for warranty and we declined it.

Bottom line, had you followed the warranty guidelines you would have a new controller today. I dont know how many times I can say it. You dont like that policy, you made that clear. We all have opinions.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:03 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Coolingmist,

I understand that you're sticking to your "policy." I just figured that you would understand my point of view on the subject if I explained myself.

Greg Guster with Engine Runup is a stand up guy. I totally agree with that. He even offered to pay half of what he pays for your controllers ($160) and i'd just cover the remaining $80 and shipping/handling. I declined his offer and told him thanks for trying to make things right. My problem wasn't with him I guess, and it wasnt with you either. It was with the fact that the controller broke on me with very minimal street time. For what its worth, the controller worked beautifully when it was working, but it just took a crap on me out of nowhere.

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Old 03-20-2007, 06:14 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Coolingmist,

I understand that you're sticking to your "policy." I just figured that you would understand my point of view on the subject if I explained myself.

Greg Guster with Engine Runup is a stand up guy. I totally agree with that. He even offered to pay half of what he pays for your controllers ($160) and i'd just cover the remaining $80 and shipping/handling. I declined his offer and told him thanks for trying to make things right. My problem wasn't with him I guess, and it wasnt with you either. It was with the fact that the controller broke on me with very minimal street time. For what its worth, the controller worked beautifully when it was working, but it just took a crap on me out of nowhere.

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And I completely understand your point of view. I dont doubt that controller could have gone bad. When the case is not opened its frankly a no-brainer. Since its opened I cant tell what caused it without going to great expense. If a screw on the inside came loose as you said and shorted something out that could explain why it worked for a while and stopped. yet if some one buys our controller and wants to see whats inside and doesn't put it together right, the same thing can happen. We caught between a rock and hard place. i have taken our controller apart many times and its NOT easy to put back together. There are a million parts inside incudling spacers, washers and shims.



I agree about Greg. Maybe had you called me directly and spoke to me about this we could have worked this out. As you know, you and I had no contact until this post. This is why after a few posts I didn't want any hard feelings so I thought I can make an exception and we can work out something to make us both happy. you wanted nothing to do with it.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:48 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Coolingmist,

Ok, so we both have our points. And I understand I got caught on a technicality. I just figured you would have given me the benefit of the doubt and helped me out in any way, shape, or form. The main reason why I couldn't take you up on your offer is b/c after I found out that you wouldn't initially do anything for me, I removed the alky system from my bike and parted it out. Now its too late.

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Old 03-20-2007, 08:40 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I don't run Alky so my opinion is unbiased. Bottom line is read or ASK about the warranty BEFORE you buy. Coolingmist's policy is quite clear http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=policy
Interesting changes since I posted the URL earlier in the thread.

Interesting also that after the earlier editing to see where/ how the 3rd party came back into play.
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:01 AM   #87 (permalink)
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So, we go from the controller being beat up and harness cut and unit opened and screws missing from circuit board etc., to the power harness in tact complete with fuse holder and basically denied warranty because the guy looked inside and the loose screws fell out. even though you stated, "had the fuse holder been intact we would have warranted it."


There is not one guy here with any technical skill that woul'd have a look to see if there is something silly causing the fault before going through the inconvience of sending the unit in and waiting for a new one. I've seen and repaired more than a few poorly soldered connections on different stuff.

Customer service goes a long way, your products may be of high quality but I still say unless the guy blaintantly fried it, it shouldn't have come to this.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:10 AM   #88 (permalink)
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So, we go from the controller being beat up and harness cut and unit opened and screws missing from circuit board etc., to the power harness in tact complete with fuse holder and basically denied warranty because the guy looked inside and the loose screws fell out. even though you stated, "had the fuse holder been intact we would have warranted it."


There is not one guy here with any technical skill that woul'd have a look to see if there is something silly causing the fault before going through the inconvience of sending the unit in and waiting for a new one. I've seen and repaired more than a few poorly soldered connections on different stuff.

Customer service goes a long way, your products may be of high quality but I still say unless the guy blaintantly fried it, it shouldn't have come to this.
You are entitled to your opinion, but like I said, once the unit is open I dont know if the problem was caused by him opening it or by faulty build. In otherwords, if a screw came loose over time and fell on the circuit board while the system was activating that could be enough to fry the unit. If someone takes apart the unit to look inside and then a screw comes loose and fries the unit, whos fault is that? I have no way to reconcile those two actions. Dont open the case and it gets warrantied, I dont think thats too hard to understand. About the fuse, if the case wasn't open and a fuse holder is attached, yes we will warranty it. If the case is not open and the fuse holder is missing, we will NOT warranty it. Regardless of whether his fuse holder was missing or not is beside the point in HIS situation, his case was open and now I dont know what caused the problem.

You are entitled to your opinion.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:39 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Thats good, cause thats all I was offering



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Old 08-27-2007, 08:56 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how I can get in contact with Greg Guster with Engine Runup? I sent him back the good controller back months ago and he will not return my emails. I emailed his personal email, his wife's, and their website email. I dont have his phone number or my refund!

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