Coolingmist Issues

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by coolingmist

This doesn't concern you. I dont care about your opinion. You are ignored from now on.

LMAO.....

Some vendor, when asked detailed guestions, you go hide....
Nice....

So it looks like you would rather hide, then risk any sales of a product that's getting modified, that you know about, and wont' warranty. What a great fricking way to do business...

Well, at least as time goes on, you're showing who you really are....

One has to wonder now, when it is that you bother telling the truth. No word about that big deal lawsuit (from what you were making out of it), now warranties that only have some of the info.. What next?, 30 day warranties?.

[turbosy]

Well,

I am certainly pleased that this has been brought to light. There is no "seal", or even a disclaimer sticker for that matter, that most companies put on an enclosure that they dont want opened. Hopefully, justice will be served, and his company will eventually fold.

later
Jordan

[Steve Wood]

Originally Posted by NJBuickRacer

The smart thing to do would be to take him up on this offer, if you don't want to use it on your vehicle anymore then you would at least have a resellable item.

Exactly...it really appears you had no interesting in resolving the matter, but, just wanted to badmouth him. Makes one wonder just how the product was broken in the first place.

[salvageV6]

Just goes to show you how many morons buy alky. kits.

"Things that are not covered: Abuse, neglect......"

Doc your reading skillz are sorely lacking when you put the blinders on.

And he has already stated he didn't want to do business with YOU anyways.

You break stuff and modify stuff inside an electrical circuit box and usually the people that build them can tell.

Regardless of anyones level of expertise or the complexity of the product.

Nice try at bashing a vendor though.

Jordan, justice would be served if he became an alky. gooroo moderator and deleted your posts.

[turbosy]

Steve,

You are right. I have absolutely no interest in doing any business with him whatsoever as I stated in a previous post. If I really did take his controller apart before it was broken and screwed it up myself, why would I badmouth him if I didnt want it fixed at this point? I want nothing from him.

later
Jordan

[stevemon]

David has been more than generous and professional here.
Doc on the other hand is throwing out his usual hatred for anything Alky that does not come from Julio. That kind of obvious bias is only making him and Turbobuicks.com look bad from where I see it.

[Steve Wood]

Originally Posted by turbosy

Steve,

You are right. I have absolutely no interest in doing any business with him whatsoever as I stated in a previous post. If I really did take his controller apart before it was broken and screwed it up myself, why would I badmouth him if I didnt want it fixed at this point? I want nothing from him.

later
Jordan

Given your behavior, it is really difficult to know what happened in this case. Even if you did not want to use it, having it fixed so you could recoup some of your money would have made sense to most.

From the Coolingmist side, I would have thought it would have been wise to examine the controller and see if something had been smoked in it as if it had been wired incorrectly, etc. Would not have cost him much to take the time to figure out what was wrong with it, and, he could have fixed it at his own cost, or given you the price to repair it if it appeared you were the culprit behind the problem.

Most vendors would not be too happy to find their product returned in a mangled condition, but, sometimes one has to suck it up and try to go above and beyond.

Most customers would know that if you hack it up, you own it...but, sometimes curosity gets to all of us.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by salvageV6

And he has already stated he didn't want to do business with YOU anyways.

So?.
I can still find his *business* practices lacking, and comment on them.
There is this item called Freedom of Speech, maybe you ought to investigate it.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by Steve Wood

From the Coolingmist side, I would have thought it would have been wise to examine the controller and see if something had been smoked in it as if it had been wired incorrectly, etc. Would not have cost him much to take the time to figure out what was wrong with it, and, he could have fixed it at his own cost, or given you the price to repair it if it appeared you were the culprit behind the problem.

Most vendors would not be too happy to find their product returned in a mangled condition, but, sometimes one has to suck it up and try to go above and beyond.

How about the fact that Coolingmist knows there are tampered with, used ones for sale, and hasn't said anything?.
Not to mention the poorly worded warranty. There could have been a million ways to write it, and shouldn't be adding clauses to it as he sees *fit*, unless he rewrites the *posted* policy.

And he missed the 90 days by how many?.....

I'm still waiting to hear about his lose of sales damage suit, or was Coolingmist again just writting for the sake of writting.

[salvageV6]

Freedom of speech is great, get back up there on that soapbox and tilt at those windmills.

By the way have you finished your in depth website investigation of your alky. control supplier yet? Find those temp. specs. yet?

The fact that YOU find his business practices lacking is moot, which was my free speech part of the post, it's now obvious that it went right over your head.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by stevemon

David has been more than generous and professional here.
Doc on the other hand is throwing out his usual hatred for anything Alky that does not come from Julio. That kind of obvious bias is only making him and Turbobuicks.com look bad from where I see it.

LMAO, another net *expert* ranting about his fantasies.

LMAO, Professional, ya, have you even been reading what's going on?. Gads, he's admitted there are tampered with units of HIS out there, and he knows about them, and refuses to share that info.. Wow, what a great Policy.

*Where you see it*, LMAO, I won't bother to go there, LMAO.

Thanks for the laughs BTW, I always enjoy your *Professional Opinion*, LMAO.

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by salvageV6

Freedom of speech is great, get back up there on that soapbox and tilt at those windmills.

By the way have you finished your in depth website investigation of your alky. control supplier yet? Find those temp. specs. yet?

The fact that YOU find his business practices lacking is moot, which was my free speech part of the post, it's now obvious that it went right over your head.

When in doubt, etc etc.

So your endorsing his policy of not telling prospective customers that there are faulty units out there?.

How about some news of his lawsuit for lose of sales, got any info on that?.

If you want to start a thread about operating temps., fine, feel free, but that hasn't a thing to do with an vendor that summarily changes his warranty, and with holds info about tampered units being sold, that have no warrranty.

[stevemon]

Doc, you're too illogical to merit arguing with.
But I guess if that's what it takes for you to believe you're the winner in these little peccadillos concerning Alky Control vs the World, all I can say is, more power to you! Have a nice weekend!

[Doc1of7]

Originally Posted by stevemon

Doc, you're too illogical to merit arguing with.

Ya, sticking to the subject, does confuse some people.

BTW, how would you feel if you were in Jordan's shoes?. Finding out that the supplier of a product you bought, knew there were defective ones on the market place, AFTER you bought one?.

Ya, he was a couple days over warranty, ya, I guess that makes him deserving of getting no consideration from the supplier, ya, maybe in your world.

What? should I now apologize for being a customer advocate?. BTW, don't hold your breathe.

Yep, a nice weekend is planned.

[Madcat455]

Originally Posted by Doc1of7

Ya, sticking to the subject, does confuse some people.

BTW, how would you feel if you were in Jordan's shoes?. Finding out that the supplier of a product you bought, knew there were defective ones on the market place, AFTER you bought one?.

Ya, he was a couple days over warranty, ya, I guess that makes him deserving of getting no consideration from the supplier, ya, maybe in your world.

What? should I now apologize for being a customer advocate?. BTW, don't hold your breathe.

Yep, a nice weekend is planned.

I'll just throw in my 2 cents here, from what I'm seeing.

Personally, the fault lies with it being taken apart in the first place... Cooling mist already said that he would've repaird it anyway if he wouldn't have taken it apart and cut the wireing.

I don't see any problems with that... personally, I agree with it. If a customer buys a Cell phone (I own/manage a cell phone dealer) from me, takes it home.. has dropped calls, and flaky screen.. I'll return it. IF that customer so much as loosens a screw attempting to diagnose or fix it themselves... they're SOL. I don't care if they have a PHD in electrical engineering. They're not autoroized to repair/replace faulty board equipment, so they have no business taking it apart.

MOST consumers know this.

NOW.. I don't see where Cooling mist mentioned knowing about faulty products out there... but C'mon... EVERY manufacturer has faulty products out there... Doesn't matter what it is.. there's a defective one out there right out of the box. Manufacturers KNOW THIS... and Accept that some will slip through QC. And they WILL warranty it, AS LONG AS THE CONSUMER DOESN'T TRY TO TAKE IT APART!!!

Cooling Mist said that he sells his units through different compainies as well... He has NO control over wether or not that company sells a known defective unit or not... He can only stop selling to that vendor if the issue is proven and continues.

Motorola can't be responsible if I decide to sell a bunch of DOA phones anyway... I'm responsible for that shady work. Motorola will honor the warranty... IF IT'S NOT DAMAGED.

well.. That's just my opinion...