VP Meth Question

Scottie-GNZ · 03-12-2007, 08:28 PM

Thought all along I was running VP meth and recently discovered I was running "just regular meth". Anyone use VP meth (M1) and have any real world comparitive data with regular meth? VP also now has M3 and claims it will make more power. Anyone using it and have feedback or know of any links that has tested it?

snowbird · 03-13-2007, 03:19 PM

I have run vp m1 and industrial grade methanol and have never seen any difference,,but these are not lab test results.....i have asked razor...eric marshal.....and put a post on tb about the M3 ...nobody had tried it yet ...while i was buying some c 16 for a buddy i questioned the owner and he advised me to phone the TECH LINE at ...VP RACING FUELS....I REST MY CASE

snowbird · 03-13-2007, 06:11 PM

I sent an e mail to vp racing fuels ,,asking thier tech director about injecting m3 methanol into our turbo engines,,,,his answer was,,,,m3 does not have the same cooling effect as m1 and i would advise you to use m1 methanol .....this is direct from vp racing fuels technical department

firebird_1252 · 03-13-2007, 06:59 PM

SUPOSEDLY the M1 has a additive in it that helps the life extend of the alky. i've ran no name meth and i've found its all the same.

Scottie-GNZ · 03-13-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowbird

I sent an e mail to vp racing fuels ,,asking thier tech director about injecting m3 methanol into our turbo engines,,,,his answer was,,,,m3 does not have the same cooling effect as m1 and i would advise you to use m1 methanol .....this is direct from vp racing fuels technical department

Hmm, that's interesting because I spoke with a tech rep from VP Tuesday evening and he told me from their lab and dyno tests, 5% increase in power can be expected from M3 over M1 and typically about 1% from M1 over "regular" meth. That means ~6% increase from M3 over "regular meth.

snowbird · 03-14-2007, 09:14 AM

SCOTTIE ,,did you tell him it was to be injected into throttle body,,,,by doing this we could raise turbo boost by 5 or 6 lbs without detonation???? this is what i told director of tech

snowbird · 03-14-2007, 09:21 AM

HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS ,,THE M1 HAD A BETTER COOLING EFFECT THAN THE M3 AND RECOMMENED THE M1 ,,,,I DID MENTION I WAS USEING RAZORS KIT

Scottie-GNZ · 03-14-2007, 11:30 AM

I told him the application and there was no mention of the difference in cooling effect just increased purity and the properties of M3 made it better. No one here locally has M1 in stock and ironically, the Ft Lauderdale distributor's price for a 5-gal drum of M3 was cheaper than the laocal price of M1 if they had it. Will probably have a 5-gal drum of M3 shipped up to try it.

Only thing I will have to go by is the IAT (behind the TB) through the traps. I will really have nothing to compare it to.

snowbird · 03-15-2007, 07:18 PM

HMMMM,,,,we seem to be getting no where with this . i e mailed the teck DIRECTOR ,,,but i do not have his name as i have deleted his e mail,,,,i did buy c16 in ft. lauderdale

TURBOCULOSIS26 · 05-10-2007, 11:11 PM

Well I am about to buy a drum of M1 $142.00 So I wonder if this issue has been resolved? Is the M3 better ??

Scottie-GNZ · 05-11-2007, 06:48 AM

Well, it certainly is still an open issue. Considering how inexpensive a drum is, if it was me I would go for the M3 based on the fact that the tech gave his opinion based on actual dyno results. Dont know if we would actually see a 5% power increase but we have spent a lot more $$$ for less gain.

I have not run my system for about 6 mos and now that I got the it going and the boost up, it does not appear to be working. I plan to do the initial track test with 110 but from that point on it will be M3.

turbo nasty · 05-11-2007, 07:13 AM

I will have to check with the spped shop here as I get VP meth also and not sure of M1 or M3 will find out though.

Side question.......What engine in your Z.
Looks like a SR20, is it?

When I lived in Japan for a few years I had a R32 GTS-t Skyline (RB20) worked over REEAAL well, and a Silvia with the SR20 with just bolt ons.
That RB was BAAAD

.

Nice ride anyways.

Scottie-GNZ · 05-11-2007, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo nasty

Side question.......What engine in your Z.
Looks like a SR20, is it?

It's an FC RX7. Look here, What I have Been Working On , for details.

UnderBoost · 06-05-2007, 12:32 AM

I go to sprint car shop for my meth. The guy said they test all of there fuels
before taking them in and off the truck. The meth that I buy is out of there gas pump. I have only bought from them and have never had any issues with it. I have notice that I can run 26-27psi with 91pump on the street with no knock.

I pay $14 for 5gal. My Q is what makes VP so damn $$$$$

Also to has anyone tried VP-Import against VP-C16?

Steve Wood · 06-05-2007, 09:30 PM

Let us know if the M3 screws up the pump?????

03-12-2007, 08:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scottie-GNZ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orlando, FL, USA Posts: 1,557	VP Meth Question Thought all along I was running VP meth and recently discovered I was running "just regular meth". Anyone use VP meth (M1) and have any real world comparitive data with regular meth? VP also now has M3 and claims it will make more power. Anyone using it and have feedback or know of any links that has tested it? __________________

03-13-2007, 06:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
firebird_1252 I'm the Best! Join Date: May 2001 Location: farmingville ny Posts: 12,505	SUPOSEDLY the M1 has a additive in it that helps the life extend of the alky. i've ran no name meth and i've found its all the same. __________________ Rob 87 GN fully loaded.. learning to walk again 03 vw GTI- wicked tuning turbo back, forged 007 diverter.. revo stage 2 coming soon 04 SC/MCSS 14.89 gone "But the day may come when you've got something to lose, and just when you think you're done paying dues And you say to yourself, dear God what Have I done? And hope its not too late 'cause tomorrow may never come."

03-14-2007, 11:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Scottie-GNZ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orlando, FL, USA Posts: 1,557	I told him the application and there was no mention of the difference in cooling effect just increased purity and the properties of M3 made it better. No one here locally has M1 in stock and ironically, the Ft Lauderdale distributor's price for a 5-gal drum of M3 was cheaper than the laocal price of M1 if they had it. Will probably have a 5-gal drum of M3 shipped up to try it. Only thing I will have to go by is the IAT (behind the TB) through the traps. I will really have nothing to compare it to. __________________

05-11-2007, 06:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Scottie-GNZ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Orlando, FL, USA Posts: 1,557	Well, it certainly is still an open issue. Considering how inexpensive a drum is, if it was me I would go for the M3 based on the fact that the tech gave his opinion based on actual dyno results. Dont know if we would actually see a 5% power increase but we have spent a lot more $$$ for less gain. I have not run my system for about 6 mos and now that I got the it going and the boost up, it does not appear to be working. I plan to do the initial track test with 110 but from that point on it will be M3. __________________

05-11-2007, 07:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
turbo nasty Boost Sux my Wallet Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast area Posts: 1,104	I will have to check with the spped shop here as I get VP meth also and not sure of M1 or M3 will find out though. Side question.......What engine in your Z. Looks like a SR20, is it? When I lived in Japan for a few years I had a R32 GTS-t Skyline (RB20) worked over REEAAL well, and a Silvia with the SR20 with just bolt ons. That RB was BAAAD . Nice ride anyways. __________________ 87 GN (3480lbs w/me & 1/2 tank) GT3255E, ESP FMIC, Razors Alky, Turbosaver, TA Headers, THDP w/test, ATR crossflow, TT, 38's, CK trans, Pats 10" 3k l/u, QA1r's, UMI Ups (adj) and lows, HR bar, MT DR's. 2003 G35 Coupe Blk on BLk, JDM Clears, 18's, Prem PKG, Lthr, Bose....wifes car 2005 Harleys : Wide Glide & Duece ...Mucho Bling

03-13-2007, 03:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
snowbird Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida canada Posts: 44	I have run vp m1 and industrial grade methanol and have never seen any difference,,but these are not lab test results.....i have asked razor...eric marshal.....and put a post on tb about the M3 ...nobody had tried it yet ...while i was buying some c 16 for a buddy i questioned the owner and he advised me to phone the TECH LINE at ...VP RACING FUELS....I REST MY CASE

03-13-2007, 06:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
snowbird Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida canada Posts: 44	I sent an e mail to vp racing fuels ,,asking thier tech director about injecting m3 methanol into our turbo engines,,,,his answer was,,,,m3 does not have the same cooling effect as m1 and i would advise you to use m1 methanol .....this is direct from vp racing fuels technical department

03-14-2007, 09:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
snowbird Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida canada Posts: 44	SCOTTIE ,,did you tell him it was to be injected into throttle body,,,,by doing this we could raise turbo boost by 5 or 6 lbs without detonation???? this is what i told director of tech

03-14-2007, 09:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
snowbird Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida canada Posts: 44	HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS ,,THE M1 HAD A BETTER COOLING EFFECT THAN THE M3 AND RECOMMENED THE M1 ,,,,I DID MENTION I WAS USEING RAZORS KIT

03-15-2007, 07:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
snowbird Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida canada Posts: 44	HMMMM,,,,we seem to be getting no where with this . i e mailed the teck DIRECTOR ,,,but i do not have his name as i have deleted his e mail,,,,i did buy c16 in ft. lauderdale

05-10-2007, 11:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
TURBOCULOSIS26 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 47	Well I am about to buy a drum of M1 $142.00 So I wonder if this issue has been resolved? Is the M3 better ??

06-05-2007, 12:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
UnderBoost Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At the Bank, CA Posts: 12	I go to sprint car shop for my meth. The guy said they test all of there fuels before taking them in and off the truck. The meth that I buy is out of there gas pump. I have only bought from them and have never had any issues with it. I have notice that I can run 26-27psi with 91pump on the street with no knock. I pay $14 for 5gal. My Q is what makes VP so damn $$$$$ Also to has anyone tried VP-Import against VP-C16? __________________ Brent 87 GN New 109 built By www.turbolou.com Turbo Tweak Chip, 3''MAF, Ported Stock Irons 1/8 60ft 1.45 6.39@109 28psi 1/4 60ft 1.62 10.12@134 28psi TSM Trim in BG

06-05-2007, 09:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Steve Wood An American American Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: East of Eden, Texas Posts: 36,376	Let us know if the M3 screws up the pump????? __________________ ------------------ 'A government that is big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take away everything you have.' - Thomas Jefferson I think one should worry more when people are lining up to get out of a country rather than into it. If they're sneaking in, we must be doing something right. The Chronicles of Zap, from the early 21st century www.vortexbuicks-etc.com

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