taking the plunge. - Page 2

joenational · 01-18-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firebird_1252

but is it a pain to tune?

I dont think so. It of course depends on everything you have. I have everything matched down to the plugs gapped at .032. I get no popping and can run all day. Only draw back is the stock location starts to get Heat soaked so I dont hot lap unless I am in comp

. Cant help that. My hardest thing is deciding which dial to put on the damn windows. However getting back, no it is not hard to tune. Get your self an adj boost controller. The one I have (bstc) is really cool, a snap to install and get a lot of functions with it including 3rd gear boost control. Get it, install it and burn it

you wont be disappointed.

firebird_1252 · 01-18-2007, 07:58 PM

joe how do you tune though? fuel pressure? whats with the pump speed and what not?

joenational · 01-18-2007, 08:18 PM

Well it all depends, my suggestion is get the system first and tune from the factory settings. After that then see what car needs or doesen't. Since it is a progessive system it is rather easy to tune. Turn the knob until you see zero knock is kind of all you need. I have not had to play with it much. I left the turn on and intial settings alone on the box under the dash (when you get the system you will know what I mean) then I just started to test what my car needed starting at a base of 14lbs. After I had zero knock at 14lbs without the alky I then turned it on and recorded every run in DS. I did this in the st. first though since I didn't have access to track at all.

After I took my first runs, I then turned the alky on and boost set to 18#'s, I saw no knock at all and just kept turning it up and as it needed I turned the knob on the alky up too. I pretty much maxed out my boost contoller and had no knock with the alky knob at about 6 or so(it goes up to 8). The number you see in the siggy was done with the above tuning. I still have a lot left in her its just I suck and have no suspension. That number in the sig was had with a 1.76 60', if I can get her down to 1.59 or so I know she will be a low 11 second car. I am also maxing out my injectors (42.5) which will be bumped up to 60#'s in the next few months in preparation for this season.

You know the rest, get a good chip (tt) for alky, set the fuel psi to what he asks for, I run ac plugs gapped at .032 and make sure you car is ready for some high boosting blah blah blah. It really makes a difference. Honestly I look at alky like this. Really you car is doing what you car can do its just the alky is allowing it to perform up to its capabilities. Alky doesn't automatically make the car faster it jsut allows the car to do its thing. Make sense I hope, cause it does in my mind

let me know I can help you through the whole install as I had a good time installing it since I never done some of the things required (soldering, opening up the dash, etc...)

Thanks,

firebird_1252 · 01-18-2007, 10:17 PM

wow joe.. thanks thats the info i'm looking for!

joenational · 01-18-2007, 10:55 PM

No problem bud!!

salvageV6 · 01-19-2007, 12:22 AM

Okay I'll give ya another year to install and tune it.

Steve Wood · 01-19-2007, 10:32 AM

and another year to replace the tranny that needs to be rebuilt.

I hope one of my descendants sends word to the Eden graveyard about this race

firebird_1252 · 01-19-2007, 10:39 AM

me too that i need a TC now... and i dont want to do a TC with out doing the tranny...

Steve Wood · 01-19-2007, 10:51 AM

then spend the money on what you need...not what you want!

If your converter has gone bad, then the tranny is right behind it....otherwise, there is no need for a converter with a TE44

salvageV6 · 01-19-2007, 01:29 PM

Don't get one from Eric S.

I'm counting on the slippery tranny to allow me to win the race.

One of these years......

Maybe it'll be the tuning instead.

Get at least a Hi-pro if not a full billet one.

What's $3K to win some bragging rights.

01-18-2007, 07:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
firebird_1252 I'm the Best! Join Date: May 2001 Location: farmingville ny Posts: 12,803	joe how do you tune though? fuel pressure? whats with the pump speed and what not? __________________ Rob 87 GN fully loaded.. learning to walk again 03 vw GTI- wicked tuning turbo back, forged 007 diverter.. revo stage 2 coming soon 04 SC/MCSS 14.89 gone "But the day may come when you've got something to lose, and just when you think you're done paying dues And you say to yourself, dear God what Have I done? And hope its not too late 'cause tomorrow may never come."

01-18-2007, 08:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
joenational I piss excellence!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where you at? Posts: 1,721	Well it all depends, my suggestion is get the system first and tune from the factory settings. After that then see what car needs or doesen't. Since it is a progessive system it is rather easy to tune. Turn the knob until you see zero knock is kind of all you need. I have not had to play with it much. I left the turn on and intial settings alone on the box under the dash (when you get the system you will know what I mean) then I just started to test what my car needed starting at a base of 14lbs. After I had zero knock at 14lbs without the alky I then turned it on and recorded every run in DS. I did this in the st. first though since I didn't have access to track at all. After I took my first runs, I then turned the alky on and boost set to 18#'s, I saw no knock at all and just kept turning it up and as it needed I turned the knob on the alky up too. I pretty much maxed out my boost contoller and had no knock with the alky knob at about 6 or so(it goes up to 8). The number you see in the siggy was done with the above tuning. I still have a lot left in her its just I suck and have no suspension. That number in the sig was had with a 1.76 60', if I can get her down to 1.59 or so I know she will be a low 11 second car. I am also maxing out my injectors (42.5) which will be bumped up to 60#'s in the next few months in preparation for this season. You know the rest, get a good chip (tt) for alky, set the fuel psi to what he asks for, I run ac plugs gapped at .032 and make sure you car is ready for some high boosting blah blah blah. It really makes a difference. Honestly I look at alky like this. Really you car is doing what you car can do its just the alky is allowing it to perform up to its capabilities. Alky doesn't automatically make the car faster it jsut allows the car to do its thing. Make sense I hope, cause it does in my mind let me know I can help you through the whole install as I had a good time installing it since I never done some of the things required (soldering, opening up the dash, etc...) Thanks, __________________ 1987 Buick Grand National,3" THDP with dumper, 3" Torque Tech exhaust with race Dynomax Ultraflo's, 60#er's, hd valve springs, RJC powerplate, xp hotwired, volt booster, ta 61 w. 63 housing, 17 row stock location, Street/Strip trans by Eric Schertz (RIP), 9.5 viglante 3000 stall L/U couple of other goodies, its nice to be fast... 11.69 @ 117.22 -- with stock unopened motor and stock heads.. Suck on that Sean 2006 JCC Rookie of the year ... Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! BPG #: 1971

01-18-2007, 10:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
firebird_1252 I'm the Best! Join Date: May 2001 Location: farmingville ny Posts: 12,803	wow joe.. thanks thats the info i'm looking for! __________________ Rob 87 GN fully loaded.. learning to walk again 03 vw GTI- wicked tuning turbo back, forged 007 diverter.. revo stage 2 coming soon 04 SC/MCSS 14.89 gone "But the day may come when you've got something to lose, and just when you think you're done paying dues And you say to yourself, dear God what Have I done? And hope its not too late 'cause tomorrow may never come."

01-18-2007, 10:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
joenational I piss excellence!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where you at? Posts: 1,721	No problem bud!! __________________ 1987 Buick Grand National,3" THDP with dumper, 3" Torque Tech exhaust with race Dynomax Ultraflo's, 60#er's, hd valve springs, RJC powerplate, xp hotwired, volt booster, ta 61 w. 63 housing, 17 row stock location, Street/Strip trans by Eric Schertz (RIP), 9.5 viglante 3000 stall L/U couple of other goodies, its nice to be fast... 11.69 @ 117.22 -- with stock unopened motor and stock heads.. Suck on that Sean 2006 JCC Rookie of the year ... Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! BPG #: 1971

01-19-2007, 10:39 AM	#23 (permalink)
firebird_1252 I'm the Best! Join Date: May 2001 Location: farmingville ny Posts: 12,803	me too that i need a TC now... and i dont want to do a TC with out doing the tranny... __________________ Rob 87 GN fully loaded.. learning to walk again 03 vw GTI- wicked tuning turbo back, forged 007 diverter.. revo stage 2 coming soon 04 SC/MCSS 14.89 gone "But the day may come when you've got something to lose, and just when you think you're done paying dues And you say to yourself, dear God what Have I done? And hope its not too late 'cause tomorrow may never come."

01-19-2007, 12:22 AM	#21 (permalink)
salvageV6 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 6,431	Okay I'll give ya another year to install and tune it.

01-19-2007, 10:32 AM	#22 (permalink)
Steve Wood An American American Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: East of Eden, Texas Posts: 37,158	and another year to replace the tranny that needs to be rebuilt. I hope one of my descendants sends word to the Eden graveyard about this race

01-19-2007, 10:51 AM	#24 (permalink)
Steve Wood An American American Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: East of Eden, Texas Posts: 37,158	then spend the money on what you need...not what you want! If your converter has gone bad, then the tranny is right behind it....otherwise, there is no need for a converter with a TE44 __________________ ------------------ 'A government that is big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take away everything you have.' - Thomas Jefferson I think one should worry more when people are lining up to get out of a country rather than into it. If they're sneaking in, we must be doing something right. The Chronicles of Zap, from the early 21st century www.vortexbuicks-etc.com

01-19-2007, 01:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
salvageV6 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 6,431	Don't get one from Eric S. I'm counting on the slippery tranny to allow me to win the race. One of these years...... Maybe it'll be the tuning instead. Get at least a Hi-pro if not a full billet one. What's $3K to win some bragging rights.

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