How does alcohol injection work?

Torque Monster · 07-14-2002, 02:35 PM

I've honestly no clue as to how this set up works. What does it do, and how does it improve the power of your car? Might sound dumb, but I figured instead of searchin' the 'net I'd ask you guys first. I did a search on alcohol injection but nothing like this came up. http://www.turbobuicks.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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1998 Camaro Z28

pwrslave · 07-14-2002, 04:05 PM

http://www.smcenterprises.com

Torque Monster · 07-14-2002, 06:57 PM

That sort of explained it. So basically it's like a nitrous injection, except you're injecting...denatured alcohol? I'm still not fully understanding this. You crank the boost up and use the alcohol so you don't have to use race gas? I assume this can't be on all the time.

pwrslave · 07-14-2002, 08:54 PM

From what i gather about the system, it will turn on under boost so it is something that works only when you need it.(like getting rid of knock) I am ordering the kit on monday, when I get it installed I will let you know what I think.

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87 GN
Walbro 340 / Adjustable Reg. / Cold air (ATR) /
50# Delphi's/ Pit Bull 94 chip / Kenne Bell 93 chip / accel 8.8 race wires/ 160* therm./ and more mods to come!

salvageV6 · 07-14-2002, 10:15 PM

It allows you to run more boost and timing on pump gas than normally is allowed.

Turn on psi. is from 8 to 15 for most cars.

It is very important to have the car in a good state of tune before the alky. kit is added.

Scan tools are a must for using the kit and tuning it right.

YGETV8 · 07-14-2002, 11:58 PM

Ever feel how alcohol feels on your skin? COOL! It has that same effect on the heated air charge from the turbo. It has similar benefits to running higher octane fuel, allowing higher boost and/or timing. But, you don't foul out O2 sensors week after week and you can run around in "kill mode" all the time, rather than just at the track! SMC makes a very good kit and is plug 'n play.

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Jay Jackson
(the 62MM TB guy!)
http://hometown.aol.com/ygettv8/myhomepageindex.html

"YGETV8" '86 gray T-Type 94K... high tens...?? (Finally together and running for the first time in 5 years... but more work needed!) Girdled stock block, Stealth turbo, 62-65mm TB, PI 9.5" 7-disc, Jimmy's Trans, P&P heads, 218/218, Hooker Headers, 3" D.P., HKS w.g., thumbwheel chip, and more... (previously ran 11.755@117.89 with the stock long block, DOTs, thru the muff, & on pump gas!)

'86 GN "Beater"... 147K driver w/ P&P stock turbo, 21.5 psi boost, K&N, 3" DP and ported elbow, Z93 chip, 30# inj., Walbro 307, AFPR, new valve springs, alum. drums, 2.5" IC neck, 62mm TB/upper, and that's about it! Best ET: 12.61 (on 215/65 all season radials!); best MPH: 111.97! Pump gas, alky and GNX wheels w/ Radial TAs = 12.60 @ 110.87! New for '02: power plate, Blue Tops, PT51, and 62/65mm TB/upper. Feels faster than my WE4 now... we'll see!

'87 WE4 61K ... "stock appearing": TA61, MJ 17 row IC, Blue tops, hidden Alky system and 93 octane, 62mm TB, P&P stock elbow w/ 3" DP, and even the "stock" airbox! 12.15@114.19 w/ a 1.967 60' full weight and thru muffs! New for '02: Trans Pak, PTE .85, 2800 stall D5, welded and ported headers, valve springs, alum. crank pulley, mini starter, Hooker exhaust... 11's?? Nope... blown headgasket 6/12/02!

'94 Mustang GT convertible, 77K miles... MAC cold air kit, pulleys, chip, H-pipe, ROH wheels 17x8.5 (front w/ 255/40s) and 17x9.5" (rear w/ 285/40s). Slow but a real looker... "her" car!

'94 Saturn SL2... 'nother beater!

Torque Monster · 07-15-2002, 01:01 AM

So will the alcohol be injected if he, say, mashes on the gas and the boost rises? http://www.turbobuicks.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Grannynational · 07-16-2002, 01:09 AM

The alcohol turns on at a certain boost level and then turns off when you reduce the throttle and return back to normal driving.

Joe

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1986 Buick Grand National
TA-49, 009's, Hooker cat back, CAS V4, Art Carr 3000 stall, BGC 3'' Downpipe, ported elbow and all the other usual stuff.
JoeN6171B@aol.com
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Mr. T · 07-17-2002, 09:27 PM

I like YGETV8's response.

But what about us poor saps with Precision FMIC's? Do I have to tap my own hole?

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'87 T .030 overbore/ big cam/ heads port/ polish/ all 3in. pipes (exh and int)inc. MAF/ j&e/ 42.5lb inj. +7th inj./ TE44/ Precision Frontmount/ houston DP/ intercooler scoop/ 11.5in M/T's/ @ 24psi best ET ??.?? @ ???.??

07-14-2002, 02:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Torque Monster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sayreville, NJ Posts: 8	How does alcohol injection work? I've honestly no clue as to how this set up works. What does it do, and how does it improve the power of your car? Might sound dumb, but I figured instead of searchin' the 'net I'd ask you guys first. I did a search on alcohol injection but nothing like this came up. http://www.turbobuicks.com/ubb/biggrin.gif ------------------ 1998 Camaro Z28 __________________ 1998 Camaro Z28

07-14-2002, 04:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
pwrslave Why cant I have an avatar Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomfield, NY,USA Posts: 111	http://www.smcenterprises.com __________________ 87 GN Walbro 340, 160 therm,Billet AFPR, 3"ATR S.S. Exhaust, ATR gutted cat, 3"Houston DP S.S., CRAIG TE44, 50# Delphi's, Extender chip, Translator Plus, 3.5 Maf, SMC alky, RJC Powerplate, accel wires, 2800 PTS 9/11 stall convertor, CAS radiator, Dual Fans, BMR upper & Lower CA's, Poly Body Bushings, H&R Motor Mounts, Trans+,Extender chip, GNX 8 Gauge Dash, PTE turbo saver, Mease 3" in & Out Big Intercooler. Nitto DR's, A.R.E. Outlaw1 wheels, Bilstein Shocks, Eibach Pro kit springs, 2-Air bags, alpine cd, 15" solo baric woofer, Rockford 6x9's & Dash speakers, alpine 5-1/4 door speakers, Rockford 976 watt amp. New combo coming soon!!!

07-14-2002, 06:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Torque Monster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sayreville, NJ Posts: 8	That sort of explained it. So basically it's like a nitrous injection, except you're injecting...denatured alcohol? I'm still not fully understanding this. You crank the boost up and use the alcohol so you don't have to use race gas? I assume this can't be on all the time. __________________ 1998 Camaro Z28

07-14-2002, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
pwrslave Why cant I have an avatar Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomfield, NY,USA Posts: 111	From what i gather about the system, it will turn on under boost so it is something that works only when you need it.(like getting rid of knock) I am ordering the kit on monday, when I get it installed I will let you know what I think. ------------------ 87 GN Walbro 340 / Adjustable Reg. / Cold air (ATR) / 50# Delphi's/ Pit Bull 94 chip / Kenne Bell 93 chip / accel 8.8 race wires/ 160* therm./ and more mods to come! __________________ 87 GN Walbro 340, 160 therm,Billet AFPR, 3"ATR S.S. Exhaust, ATR gutted cat, 3"Houston DP S.S., CRAIG TE44, 50# Delphi's, Extender chip, Translator Plus, 3.5 Maf, SMC alky, RJC Powerplate, accel wires, 2800 PTS 9/11 stall convertor, CAS radiator, Dual Fans, BMR upper & Lower CA's, Poly Body Bushings, H&R Motor Mounts, Trans+,Extender chip, GNX 8 Gauge Dash, PTE turbo saver, Mease 3" in & Out Big Intercooler. Nitto DR's, A.R.E. Outlaw1 wheels, Bilstein Shocks, Eibach Pro kit springs, 2-Air bags, alpine cd, 15" solo baric woofer, Rockford 6x9's & Dash speakers, alpine 5-1/4 door speakers, Rockford 976 watt amp. New combo coming soon!!!

07-14-2002, 10:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
salvageV6 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 6,406	It allows you to run more boost and timing on pump gas than normally is allowed. Turn on psi. is from 8 to 15 for most cars. It is very important to have the car in a good state of tune before the alky. kit is added. Scan tools are a must for using the kit and tuning it right. __________________ WE4, 155K, Daily Driver, DBLBBGT70, 55lb.Inj., Pedophile DP, hollow cat.,Schertz Hi-Pro and 3200Protorque, Postons Headers, 2 1/2"SS Ultraflows and pipes, Ex.Ext. alky chip, EGT/Bilsteins, Boxed Cont. arms/Airbags/snubber,Blizzak snows, Nittos 275/60DR, 307, adj.reg./ SMC alky dual, 9 gauges,scamaster and D.Scan,BSTC, translator and 31/2"MAF, V4 inter. DYNO. TESTED!!! 11.93 @ 113.7 GN loaded, car #2. 115K miles. Accufab reg.,Scanmaster, Reds 100 chip, Mease downpipe, Mease 15row stretch IC, hollow cat., ATR ss. 3"crossflow, SMC alky., J.J. 62mm.T.B., RJC power plate, Bilsteins, Moog springs, HR Parts mount and rear arms, Nittos. "Some Cars Like Lots Of Fuel Pressure and Some Cars Are On Blocks." 12.4 @ 111

07-14-2002, 11:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
YGETV8 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 133	Ever feel how alcohol feels on your skin? COOL! It has that same effect on the heated air charge from the turbo. It has similar benefits to running higher octane fuel, allowing higher boost and/or timing. But, you don't foul out O2 sensors week after week and you can run around in "kill mode" all the time, rather than just at the track! SMC makes a very good kit and is plug 'n play. ------------------ Jay Jackson (the 62MM TB guy!) http://hometown.aol.com/ygettv8/myhomepageindex.html "YGETV8" '86 gray T-Type 94K... high tens...?? (Finally together and running for the first time in 5 years... but more work needed!) Girdled stock block, Stealth turbo, 62-65mm TB, PI 9.5" 7-disc, Jimmy's Trans, P&P heads, 218/218, Hooker Headers, 3" D.P., HKS w.g., thumbwheel chip, and more... (previously ran 11.755@117.89 with the stock long block, DOTs, thru the muff, & on pump gas!) '86 GN "Beater"... 147K driver w/ P&P stock turbo, 21.5 psi boost, K&N, 3" DP and ported elbow, Z93 chip, 30# inj., Walbro 307, AFPR, new valve springs, alum. drums, 2.5" IC neck, 62mm TB/upper, and that's about it! Best ET: 12.61 (on 215/65 all season radials!); best MPH: 111.97! Pump gas, alky and GNX wheels w/ Radial TAs = 12.60 @ 110.87! New for '02: power plate, Blue Tops, PT51, and 62/65mm TB/upper. Feels faster than my WE4 now... we'll see! '87 WE4 61K ... "stock appearing": TA61, MJ 17 row IC, Blue tops, hidden Alky system and 93 octane, 62mm TB, P&P stock elbow w/ 3" DP, and even the "stock" airbox! 12.15@114.19 w/ a 1.967 60' full weight and thru muffs! New for '02: Trans Pak, PTE .85, 2800 stall D5, welded and ported headers, valve springs, alum. crank pulley, mini starter, Hooker exhaust... 11's?? Nope... blown headgasket 6/12/02! '94 Mustang GT convertible, 77K miles... MAC cold air kit, pulleys, chip, H-pipe, ROH wheels 17x8.5 (front w/ 255/40s) and 17x9.5" (rear w/ 285/40s). Slow but a real looker... "her" car! '94 Saturn SL2... 'nother beater! __________________ Jay Jackson http://hometown.aol.com/ygettv8/1index.html --'87 Buzda... TA61, PI 7 disc, EP Front mount, ought to run! --'87 WE4 63K ... best: 11.65, 116.2 mph, and 1.642 60' --'86 gray T-Type 94K... "YGETV8",11.755@117.89 stock long block & on pump gas! SOLD 6/03 --'86 GN "Beater"... stock combo 12.6@111.97 SOLD 8/02 --'03 Cobra, Redfire, stock... for now!

07-15-2002, 01:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Torque Monster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sayreville, NJ Posts: 8	So will the alcohol be injected if he, say, mashes on the gas and the boost rises? http://www.turbobuicks.com/ubb/biggrin.gif __________________ 1998 Camaro Z28

07-16-2002, 01:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Grannynational Resident Embraer Driver Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Clarence Center NY Posts: 1,140	The alcohol turns on at a certain boost level and then turns off when you reduce the throttle and return back to normal driving. Joe ------------------ 1986 Buick Grand National TA-49, 009's, Hooker cat back, CAS V4, Art Carr 3000 stall, BGC 3'' Downpipe, ported elbow and all the other usual stuff. JoeN6171B@aol.com http://www.turbobuicks.com/signature...nynational.gif __________________ 1986 Grand National, Not stock 1966 Bellanca Viking JoeN6171B@aol.com

07-17-2002, 09:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mr. T Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 137	I like YGETV8's response. But what about us poor saps with Precision FMIC's? Do I have to tap my own hole? ------------------ '87 T .030 overbore/ big cam/ heads port/ polish/ all 3in. pipes (exh and int)inc. MAF/ j&e/ 42.5lb inj. +7th inj./ TE44/ Precision Frontmount/ houston DP/ intercooler scoop/ 11.5in M/T's/ @ 24psi best ET ??.?? @ ???.?? __________________ '87 T .030 overbore/ 240 cam/ heads port/ polish/ all 3in. pipes (exh and int)inc. MAF/ j&e pistons/ 42.5lb inj. +7th inj./ TE44/ Precision Frontmount/ houston DP/ METCO lower control arms/ and alot of other stuff I didn't think of /11.5in M/T's/ @ 21.5psi best ET ??.?? @ ???.??

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